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11 Oct 2014 7:16 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

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doc mcb11 Oct 2014 3:08 p.m. PST

We just had a fake Tango posting dubious topics, and a repeat offender causing trouble under a series of new accounts, each coming right after the old is locked.

One solution would be to simply not give new members posting privileges for, say, three days.

Another solution would be to delay posts from appearing until they are checked by a moderator. For a lot of reasons I don't think that one would work well on TMP.

So the proposed poll question might be, should new members be unable to post for a brief period after opening an account?

If so, how long? one day? two? htree? longer?

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2014 3:32 p.m. PST

I think new members should be moderated for three days, or five posts, whichever comes second. I think it will stop the serial new member for the purpose of posting spam problem.

I thought we were under 24/7 scrutiny with all the new editors. Where is Big Brother when you need him?

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Oct 2014 4:12 p.m. PST

Bleeped textes will be Bleeped textes. Whatever your policy, they will pervert it. I am more a proponent of society treating them as such rather than wasting common resources on Bleeped textery.

doc mcb11 Oct 2014 5:22 p.m. PST

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So, why do trolls troll and how should we manage them? Although research in this area is still in its infancy, a few psychological studies have attempted to answer these questions. There are three important lessons learned.

First, trolls are more likely to display noxious personality characteristics, that is, traits that impair one's ability to build relations and function in a civilised or pro-social way. In a comprehensive examination of their psychological profile, trolls were found to be more Machiavellian (impulsive and charming manipulators), psychopathic (cold, fearless and antisocial), and especially sadist than the overall population. Trolls enjoy harming and intimidating others, so much so that the authors of this study concluded that trolls are "prototypical everyday sadists", and that trolling should be regarded as online sadism. This is in line with the view of trolling as a form of cyberbullying.

Second, trolling – like other forms of computer-mediated communication – unleashes people's impulses by providing anonymity and temporary identity loss. This phenomenon, called deindividuation, is well known to psychologists and has been found to emerge in several areas of interpersonal relations, such as gaming, role-playing and crowd behaviours, particularly hooliganism. Thus even when we are not naturally sadistic, trolling may bring out the worst side in us, by lifting the moral constrains and social etiquette that regulates our behaviour in normal situations, and by fuelling dissent and triggering abrasive reactions.

Third, trolling is a status-enhancing activity: by attracting readers' attention, upsetting people, sparking heated debates, and even gaining approval from others, trolls can feel important, perhaps much more than they are in their real lives. Thus trolling is yet another internet activity that promotes narcissistic motives, since trolls may be expected to be far less successful in attracting people's attention in the physical world. The only effective antidote to their tactics is to ignore them, but even then trolls won't suffer a public humiliation because nobody knows who they are. This is what makes trolling so ubiquitous – it requires no skills other than the ability to be obnoxious.

So, how can trolls be managed? As recent reviews have shown, sites, editors and authors can take concrete measures to minimise trolling. Disabling anonymity, moderating comments and banning offenders, as well as predicting whether an article is likely to promote trolling, are all effective steps. There is often a thin line between wanting to drive traffic and enticing trolling, so content editors and site managers must act responsibly and beware of the consequences of pushing for too much controversy. As for readers, they should try to disengage with trolls and report them. Perhaps the biggest advantage of dealing with the online manifestations of antisocial behaviour is that we can use technology to tackle them. In fact, it is easier to detect, track and manage aggression online than offline

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Oct 2014 7:14 p.m. PST

should new members be unable to post for a brief period after opening an account?

implemented

John the OFM11 Oct 2014 8:03 p.m. PST

Emergency powers.
Declaration of martial law.
Editorial discretion.
Etc.

venezia sta affondando11 Oct 2014 9:21 p.m. PST

Necessity knows no vote

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2014 5:09 a.m. PST

"I can't speak for every loon on the web"

so which loons are you speaking for?

John the OFM12 Oct 2014 8:12 a.m. PST

But other things need votes. All we want is consistency.

Too many things have been put up for votes around here.
this is not the equivalent of "Would you support a Board for the War of Jenkins Ear?"

John the OFM12 Oct 2014 8:13 a.m. PST

I thought we were under 24/7 scrutiny with all the new editors. Where is Big Brother when you need him?

Good point. Editors should be editing.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian12 Oct 2014 10:40 a.m. PST

Good point. Editors should be editing.

Besides myself, only one of the editors is trained on the forums, and she's been on vacation.

("Special Action Group Anton" was a banned member sneaking back in… as was Andrew Maybe…)

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