"My Confusion about "Ultramodern"" Topic

I have some doubts about the threads that have to be posting to the "Ultramodern" Forum and not in another "Modern" Forums.

I've seen that Bill has crossport some of my threads posted on "Modern Naval Discussion board" and "Modern Aviation Discussion" to "Ultramodern BUT eliminating them from those forums (Naval and Aviation)

Do not want to go too deeply into the subject, but suffice this example:

TMP link

That's what confuse me. Should this one to be remain in the "Modern Naval…" or not?

So, What and which threads can be posted on Modern Aviation and Naval only?

What's you opinion guys?

Many thanks for your guidance.

Amicalement
Armand

My opinion, as you have kindly asked, is for you to abandon these Ultramodern, Media, and any other board that ignores wargaming and miniatures in favour of news articles. It was maddening to see.

Play to your strength which is wargame reports, new wargame products and the occasional repeated advertisement or show.

I am otherwise a fan of yours.

What he's asking is whether modern naval topics pertinent to the last ten years should go to Modern Naval or the Ultramodern board.

I'm currently putting them into Ultramodern.

Alternately, do we need Ultramodern Naval and Ultramodern Aviation?

No, would prefer not to see more boards. They will simply serve to further separate very related topics, making it harder to find things a few days down the line.

I would suggest using ultra-modern for events, and allowing items such as the example given to be posted as it originally was.

Exactly Bill.

Imho we don't need them. Maybe we can crossport to both?

There is not a significant thead move for Modern-Ultramodern Navy or Modern- Ultramodern Aviation.

Mostly are "Ultramodern", so how if we can keep Modern Aviation and Navy as they are including most recently news about them?.

I saw that there are a quite interesting group of veterans from both ranks that posted in there.

Just my thougts.

Amicalement
Armand

We could have 'UltraModern Lingerie'…just a thought:)

I have to agree with the opinion above: Please reduce the amount of news stories that are not related to mini wargaming at all. If IŽd want to read that IŽd go to a dedicated site concentrating on these events.

Things about new equipment are perfectly fine, but all these shallow news stories about alleged nuclear strikes in the ukraine, bombing of Isis, Russian military buildup, etc.etc. have completely gotten out of hand.

Even I, who used to be on your side against all the ignorers and ragers have considered just hitting the ignore button as the amount of posting is reaching spam-like levels but unfortunately there are some useful gems posted by you that IŽd hate missing.

So I urge you to be more selective in the future!

Please refrain from posting stupid articles based on someones opinion or pseudo-analyses where most effort in writing the article went into creating a sensational headline…

Thanks in advance,
BG

George Takei is a member of TMP???

Amicalement
Armand

Ultramodern is simply too much Current Politics, too little gaming. Not a useful addition to the website. Its not Negative Waves. It is stating the fact.

When you post a gaming related or history related post Tango you are the best, and I have stood for you in the many flame wars over this issue.

When you feed the political drivel, you are part of the problem. A problem that drove a good TMPer from the website.

Deal with it.

I am glad the editor tries to keep most of the current political drivel in one place. I disagree with creating more ultramodern boards. One is enough.

One is more than enough….

Dear Tango

I've dabbled in the Ultra Modern board a bit, but I suspect that my original opinion of it as a "Dawghouse Trap" has not changed.

It is too charged with the passions of today, and as to "how to" and gaming methodology I don't see how you can devolve massacre and forced enslavement and the critical role of the very nature of Islam from it.

I designed what might be a game for this, but it was for laughs, and it was called "Terrorists Versus Tourists at the Theme Park: an Al Kayda Christmas Carol."

That's about all I can tell you about it, the rest would get me dawghoused even though as I said it's played for laughs.

Otto

Ultramodern send to the Dawghouse four people since his creation.
Nothing if you compare with other forums.! (smile)
Also , it shows a very healthy number of visitors and threads.
Much more than other Forums.

Bill is not a fool and if he created it has his good reasons.

Also, I'm not the only poster there.

By the way, my question goes for another path.

But it's a good oportunity to to criticize me! (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

I don't get the problem with the posts to the Ultramodern board. They are a nice source of possible gaming scenarios and campaigns.

Personally, my concept of "ultramodern" starts with today looking forward about 15 to 20 years. It is also based more on hypothetical conflicts than actual ongoing ones -- e.g., US and China clash over the Spratleys, South Africa invades Namibia, Saudi Arabia and Iran clash after incidents in the Persian Gulf, Russia and China fight over a border dispute, US sends SF units into Mexico after drug lords, etc. Ultramodern should also use equipment that is just now on the drawing board or has just come online. YMMV, of course!

Not completely convinced that a link to a news site and 8 posts of people saying "we should kill more terrorists" is particularly inspiring for scenario writers.

I mean, has there ever been an actual scenario posted on that board? You know, with forces, a map, some mission objectives etc?

There are plenty of maps, of military situations and also some miniatures.
It's the Forum to speak about today military matters.
Same matters (like in the past) that finally ending in a wargame.

Amicalement
Armand

"Bill is not a fool and if he created it has his good reasons."

then why are you questioning it??? he allows you to do basically whatever you want, for reasons best known to him, like posting new threads about things already being discussed in existing threads … but that's still not good enough for you???

I just don't get the controversy about the Ultra-Modern board. Can someone explain to me what the big deal is?

I curently read four TMP boards daily and several more on fairly regular basis. There are many boards on TMP devoted to subjects I have no interest in. I simply never read them. More to the point, there are a few forums on TMP that are devoted to games or subjects I actually have an active dislike for. Guess what? I don't read those either.

I certainly can't wrap my head around someone getting so torqued off and in a lather that they left the entire site just because of the existance of a board they did not care for. How does one get so sensitive to the point that the existance of a forum (one that no is draging them kicking and screaming to read, mind you) is so threatening to them that they ditch the site?

I just don't get it. Can someone logically explain this to me?

Martin

I find the Ultra modern board extremely interesting. I only dabbled in it at first and now am backing away. There's no real content there, (there can't be) but as players fly out of that and into the dawghouse it's a good barometer of the standards of the editors as to what will get you sent there, or not.

Unfortunately the board seems to be little more than restrained vituperation of either side and few real wargame stuff gets transacted. But then I told everyone that this would not be a good board as emotions and passions ran too high on this for people to be able to distance themselves from it.

My irritation was caused by there being no obvious link to wargaming/miniatures being made by the poster, it just being a news headline hung in the air for others to comment on. Disappointingly, that told me nothing about the poster…

Second, other posts have been removed for not making a link to wargames/figures (they existed they just were not made by the poster or those responding), therefore, they were removed. No difference in my book, but hey! I thought wargamers of all people would abide by the (TMP) rules

I am calm now; The Editor is not for turning; Ultramodern is for others to enjoy (and I realise they do); so let them 'enjoy'.

ENDS