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| Tango01 | 03 Oct 2014 10:40 p.m. PST |
…Operation Market-Garden. "In the fading summer days of September 1944, the Allies pondered how to deliver the final deathblow to the Third Reich. Just four years earlier, as Nazi troops had goose-stepped through Paris, Hitler appeared on the verge of winning the war. Now with bewildering speed and poetic justice, the Allies had broken out of the Normandy beachhead in July 1944 and swept across France and Belgium, just as Hitler's panzers had scythed through the hapless French in 1940 As American soldiers crossed the German frontier, victory seemed so tantalizingly close that many Allied soldiers dared to hope that the war might—oh, Lord, just might—be over by Christmas. Perhaps they could stamp out the evil of Nazism and still survive to return home to their jobs and families…"
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 Legion 4  | 04 Oct 2014 5:59 a.m. PST |
The Allies lost more at Market-Garden than Normany. I chose to brief the Op at Combine Arms School way back in my youth … |
| Jemima Fawr | 05 Oct 2014 8:50 a.m. PST |
Eh? The Allies lost roughly 45,000 dead in Normandy, plus around 100,000 wounded, whereas the total casualties for Market-Garden were roughly 17,000 dead and wounded. |
| Legion 4 | 05 Oct 2014 10:02 a.m. PST |
17,000 is what I found for Market-Garden – link But Normany about 10,000 – link |
| Jemima Fawr | 05 Oct 2014 3:37 p.m. PST |
That's just D-Day itself. I thought you were comparing campaign totals. If you want a roughly equivalent total, I'd suggest finding the casualty totals for the whole first week of the Normandy Campaign. |
| Ammianus | 05 Oct 2014 3:39 p.m. PST |
We wargamed Market Garden as part of a WWII seminar in grad school. A historical perfect storm of everything that could go wrong doing so. A real shame. |
| Legion 4 | 06 Oct 2014 7:33 a.m. PST |
Fawr, as always it's a matter looking at the time frames … Market-Garden is considered 17-25 Sep. 44. Where the 5 Normandy Beaches were not linked up until 12 June 44, 6 days later … It depends where one draws the line in battle vs. campaign, etc. … D+60 or 90 or Market-Garden's 8 days in Sep. ? As the link states, "Montgomery envisaged a ninety-day battle, lasting until all Allied forces reached the Seine." for the Normandy Campaign … The Normandy battles are considered to go 6 June 44 to mid – July 44. link As stated in the link, "by 24 July [the allies suffered]
~120,000" … And here's another link – link |
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