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Tango0125 Sep 2014 12:06 p.m. PST

… British armoured vehicles AT105 Saxon.

"According the Ukrainian website Autoconsulting, an agreement was signed to supply 50 British designed 4x4 armoured vehicles AT105 Saxon to Ukraine for volunteer forces in the country. Each vehicle could cost $57,000 USD, with a total amount for the contract around $2.85 USD million.

According to this website, Ukrainians have found a supplier of vehicles and the necessary funds but they encountered difficulties on the purchase, due to legal restrictions from Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.

The AT105 is 4x4 armoured personnel carrier which was developed by the British Company GKN Defence. The first prototype of the AT105 was completed in 1975 and the first production vehicles in 1976…"

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If you are going to collect and paint your Ukraine Modern Army…

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Chuckaroobob25 Sep 2014 8:13 p.m. PST

The Saxon is just not sexy. Now a LAV or Stryker, that's sexy!

Deadone25 Sep 2014 8:17 p.m. PST

LAV and Stryker are tedious too.

Give me a Marder anyday.

Barin125 Sep 2014 11:27 p.m. PST

They're also repairing neglected armor, stored under open air. Of course, any tank is better than nothing, but I would not like to be in the crew of this scrap metal.

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GeoffQRF26 Sep 2014 4:20 a.m. PST

They seem to be doing a good job of getting them ready…

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Barin126 Sep 2014 4:55 a.m. PST

Still, new paint will not replace welds, eaten by corrosion, weakening of structure and general metal weariness. You'll need new engine, preferably new barrel, new electrics, and you put all this into half eaten hull.
When I was in the army, we were oiling and greasing all of our long-term storage equipment, once in a several year the engine was tested, etc. Our equipment was stored in unheated boxes, but it was maintained and there was no rain/snow pouring on it. I have no doubt that they can make them run, the question is for how long…

GeoffQRF26 Sep 2014 4:56 a.m. PST

That looks like a full overhaul to me.

Zargon26 Sep 2014 6:27 a.m. PST

My dads a scrap metal merchant he'll take it all off them ;) save some lives too. They should buy American at 2000% mark-up might respect the kit a bit more.
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Lion in the Stars26 Sep 2014 5:00 p.m. PST

Still, new paint will not replace welds, eaten by corrosion, weakening of structure and general metal weariness.

If you don't get a heavy coat of rust, you can just sandblast the rust off. Assuming you had good welds to begin with, anyway.

How do you test a vehicle's NBC system? Close it up and apply pressure, then spray soapy water over the whole thing?

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