"Living catalogue of Silent death minis?" Topic
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Hayden | 21 Sep 2014 7:15 a.m. PST |
Is there such thing like living catalogue of Silent death minis? i was browsing through metal express but most of the ships are artworks which is hard to tell how the minis looklike in reality |
Zen Ghost | 21 Sep 2014 9:38 a.m. PST |
I think em-4 sells 12 of the silent death minis. They show the minis as is, not a rendering. -ZG |
BlackWidowPilot | 21 Sep 2014 9:39 a.m. PST |
Hmmm. Good question. To the best of my knowledge no one has compiled such a catalogue, and it would be a slight challenge given that we have over 100 different models in the line (and more planned). You've brought up a really good point. It looks like I'll have to pick up that gauntlet unless someone else can point us to a gallery of such work we don't know about just yet… Leland R. Erickson Metal Express metal-express.net |
Hayden | 21 Sep 2014 11:57 a.m. PST |
i also came across this picture can you identifity the minis and if they are still availible i really like style of them
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Dave Crowell | 21 Sep 2014 4:04 p.m. PST |
The large ship in the centre is a "Stingray" Class Attack Carrier from the Monday Knight Productions Galactic Knights range (Formerly Starfleet Wars by the now defunct Superior Models. link |
BlackWidowPilot | 21 Sep 2014 4:39 p.m. PST |
Those are first generation Thunderbirds made by Grenadier Miniatures waaaaay back in the early 90s right before Grenadier went under, and production for the 1st ed. SD minis shifted up North to RAFM Miniatures of Canada. The Thunderbird specifically underwent a ground up resculpting that produced its definitive configuration for the 1st edition of Silent Death. When ICE decided to reboot and expand the game to its current iteration, all of the 1st edition minis were sidelined in favor of completely new, rather more stylized and (for my tastes anyway) artsy-fartsy designs. Move forward a few more years, and Dr. Greaves and I come along with a manuscript for the Silent Death: Fighter Tactics Manual. We want to add some new ships to the stable, designs based upon actual tactical concerns of firepower and mobility rather than creating what we regarded as just another "flying Swiss Army knife" design. Well, we got the new ship designs, but we *didn't* get to have my original sketches done as actual miniatures, as ICE had no funding for new sculpts, so we were compelled to dust off the old 1st edition minis and pick and choose from among them to take the role of our fiendish designs. The result of this judicious recycling of old but still perfectly good miniatures is the fate of the second iteration of the 1st edition Thunderbird, the nasty little cuss known since SD:FTM came into print as the Chupacabra:
Pardon the rough picture. The Chupy is the small ship on the far left in the photo. The current iteration of the miniature is more robust that the original, and has a noticeably cleaner casting to it as well (the original Grenadier sculpts were inclined to have flash build up quickly between the pairs of wing mounted weapon pods). The current style of the 1st edition Thunderbird/SD:TNM edition Chupacabra is available via our Metal Express online shop: link
Hope this helps!
Leland R. Erickson Metal Express metal-express.net
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kidbananas | 21 Sep 2014 6:19 p.m. PST |
Those 1st generation ships were the best. But they did have flash problems. I hope that when all is up & running they will be available again. Also would like to see the larger ones be made available, 3-ups they were called if I remember. |
ordinarybass | 22 Sep 2014 7:14 a.m. PST |
In this day and age, there's really no excuse for not having pictures, even if it's just group shots in a gallary. 100 models is just 9-12 pictures if you put 8-12 minis per pic in group shots. I think miniature companies sometimes underestimate how many sales they loose when folks can't see the actual product. |
Hayden | 22 Sep 2014 9:12 a.m. PST |
even bare metal with blackwash can help. some companies in history used to have free packages of minis if you paint them and send good photos back….. |
Deltapax1 | 22 Sep 2014 9:28 a.m. PST |
If I had a good macro lens I'd say send me one of each and I'll photograph them for you… ;-) |
John Treadaway | 22 Sep 2014 10:07 a.m. PST |
I do prefer the older metal models, I have to say. They just look a bit more 'slabby' and fit in with my perceptions, I guess. Or perhaps it's just what I first 'grew up' with. I don't mind the plastics, mind you, just prefer the older metals. John T |
TheBeast | 22 Sep 2014 10:25 a.m. PST |
Just to be clear, the story should start with Space Master. "Tom's Spaceship Miniature Index" would be a good place for the history of figs, but doesn't seem to get updated. Doug |
BlackWidowPilot | 22 Sep 2014 11:46 a.m. PST |
Steady in the ranks there, gang! Photos and I mean lots of photos are on our lengthy to-do list, along with getting the new Night Brood shepherded through playtesting, rounding up new line art for assorted projects, working our way through all sorts of manuscripts for publication, figuring out how we're going to get new ship minis made, plus our own respective academic careers, marriages, ungrateful offspring, dangerously intelligent grandoffspring… So bear with us, pardon the mess, dust, blood, and various bits of battlefield debris, as we're still very much a work in progress. Leland R. Erickson Metal Express metal-express.net |
TheBeast | 24 Sep 2014 12:15 p.m. PST |
dangerously intelligent grandoffspring Seriously; last year, a friend gave my then-eight year old grandson the rules to Hive, 'look at them, and we'll explain when we've finished this game', but when they tried to explain, HE explained to them. He lost, but Josh complained 'he's a tricky son of a gun!' I've decided not to introduce him to Full Thrust until after he's out of college, and dumbed down. I remember several friends saying about their fathers, 'You know, I remember being so much smarter than him when I went to college; it's amazing how much he learned in four years…' You know we'll still whine about piccies, but nobody wants you to crash-and-burn. Too much of that in the business, already. Doug |
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