Sapeur | 21 Sep 2014 3:24 a.m. PST |
Came across this statement on the Calpe Miniatures website. Refers to the Saxon Artillery Peter produces. 'Note the yellow of the metalwork on this piece. This is Vallejo 'Brown Ochre, darkened with raw umber and highlighted with Naples yellow.' The pictures for the 4 pdr gun illustrates looks very good indeed, to my mind. |
von Winterfeldt | 21 Sep 2014 6:12 a.m. PST |
the barrel though should be pure brass I agree the yellow looks superb – I must copy this when doing Saxon artillery |
Dan Beattie | 21 Sep 2014 10:05 a.m. PST |
I thought "yellow fixtures" meant yellow metal (brass). Painting them, though, would make more sense. |
Sapeur | 21 Sep 2014 3:46 p.m. PST |
The description above refers only to the carriage metalwork not the barrel itself. I had a separate posting on barrel 'bronze'. |
4th Cuirassier | 22 Sep 2014 4:20 a.m. PST |
Somewhere on the web there is a superb tutorial on how to paint gold and silver lace without using gold and silver paint. Same principle? |
DHautpol | 22 Sep 2014 5:34 a.m. PST |
I think there was a Wargames Illustrated item either by or about Kevin Dallimore and his technique for gold and silver on flags using shades of oche, yellow and white for gold and successive shades of light greys and white for silver instead of metallic paints. I now use this technique myself; although with not nearly as effective results. |
marshalGreg | 22 Sep 2014 5:38 a.m. PST |
I need to locate my source, but the metal work was actually bright brass. I painted mine that scheme and they looked better than when I had them per the one above you mention. At work now so can't finger those sources. MG |
von Winterfeldt | 22 Sep 2014 5:40 a.m. PST |
this is however for metal which actual was painted "yellow" and not how to paint metal with non metal paints |
marshalGreg | 22 Sep 2014 8:29 a.m. PST |
Yes, I correct my self. Barrel is brass and the hardware is more of a yellow bronze ( & stronger than the brass so more appropriate for the fittings). More alum less tin? link MG |
deadhead | 22 Sep 2014 11:36 a.m. PST |
Never came across that book before. It looks beautiful, though. Much expert input on this topic before on this forum, which might help. TMP link |
Beeker | 22 Sep 2014 11:42 a.m. PST |
ok.. so .. just to clarify, the barel is brass… but, the metal work on the trail and so forth.. is that metallic yellow or just a flat / drab yellow? |
von Winterfeldt | 22 Sep 2014 12:07 p.m. PST |
Look at the link from deadhead above, there is a photo which explains a lot, the barrel would be brass, the metal rim of the wheels black and all the other metal parts painted yellow. The book by Reinhold is a gem, numerous beautifull contemporary prints, you should still get it fairly cheaply. |
KaweWeissiZadeh | 22 Sep 2014 12:10 p.m. PST |
More Ocre than yellow actually. link |
Beeker | 22 Sep 2014 2:06 p.m. PST |
Ah – that's better, looked like we were coming off the rails there a bit.. flat / drab ochre yellow it is! tallyho! Cheers! Beeker |
von Winterfeldt | 22 Sep 2014 2:21 p.m. PST |
A very nice artillery piece, very well painted |
Sapeur | 22 Sep 2014 10:35 p.m. PST |
Thank you all for the additional comments and links. |
von Winterfeldt | 22 Sep 2014 10:40 p.m. PST |
On some reflection the ochre like looking yellow – is maybe due to the hue of the original piece, 12 pdr gun in Koppenhagen but when I look at the plates by Reinold – they show a conventional yellow and he was a precise observer, so I would go with the yellow of the print see photo of link by Deadhead. |