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Personal logo optional field Supporting Member of TMP19 Sep 2014 9:24 p.m. PST

Does anyone think Spies, Swashbuckling and Pulp seem similar enough to me that they ought to be included into a single board?

Rakkasan19 Sep 2014 10:26 p.m. PST

There are some similarities but swashbuckling refers to period of time from maybe late 1600s to early 1800s. Pulp generally refers to the early to mid 1900s. Spies could refer to any time frame and any era, real or imaginary.
I do not think they are similar enough to be included in a single board.

RavenscraftCybernetics20 Sep 2014 6:12 a.m. PST

Even though I'm a huge fan of decreasing the number of specific boards around here… No.

deephorse20 Sep 2014 6:16 a.m. PST

No.

John the OFM20 Sep 2014 7:42 a.m. PST

No.
I actually think that multiplying boards is a goof thing, since it encourages more threads in that subject.
Therefore, shrinking and consolidating the number of Boards is a Bad Thing.

tkdguy20 Sep 2014 4:44 p.m. PST

I'd rather keep those boards separate.

Winston Smith20 Sep 2014 5:46 p.m. PST

Why do you think Spies and Swashbucklers are similar enough to be combined? To me there is a huge difference.

CeruLucifus21 Sep 2014 4:38 p.m. PST

I also am missing the similarity between Spies and Swashbuckling.

I was surprised to find we have boards for both Swashbuckling (under Napoleonics) and Pirates (under Renaissance).

And I could not find Spies.

Personal logo optional field Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2014 1:38 p.m. PST


Why do you think Spies and Swashbucklers are similar enough to be combined? To me there is a huge difference.

The outlandishly central role of a one or a few central heroes, the outlandish behavior, the common occurrence of improbable events, the frequently formulaic plots (entertaining but still formulaic) and the emphasis on certain recurring tropes (e.g. we must save the king/prime minister/president/head of state from the evil cardinal/criminal mastermind/terrorist; we must get the virus/artifact/magic item/McGuffin before the villain in order to prevent the tragic event, etc).

Would any of us be surprised to if it were suddenly discovered that the fencing scene in the James Bond film "Die Another Day" was a shot for shot recreation of scene from an Erol Flynn movie? (it isn't so far as I'm aware but I think the point is made).

Winston Smith22 Sep 2014 2:56 p.m. PST

You haven't convinced me. grin

Sergeant Paper23 Sep 2014 10:07 p.m. PST

Nope. There are only what, TEN original plots, and all else is chrome. So lumping wildly disparate chrome together because they share plots is double plus ungood.

Sergeant Paper23 Sep 2014 10:09 p.m. PST

You may choose to genre-bend, and do spy stores in pulp or swashjbuckling, but it does NOT make all pulp into spy, nor all spy into swashbuckling.

Pyrate Captain07 May 2015 9:26 a.m. PST

No.

Servo300007 May 2015 9:32 a.m. PST

Yes.

The Shadow07 May 2015 12:01 p.m. PST

Nope. Pirates have their own page, and other types of "swashbucklers", medieval to 18th century, have their own pages too. Super-spy "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang", post pulp era, should have their own page as well.

capncarp09 May 2015 7:38 p.m. PST

Swashbuckler/Spy: Jame Retief of the Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne. Lots of fun but not a lot of opportunity for gaming.
Spy/Pulp= Pulp. 'Nuff said.
Pulp/Swashbuckler= Pulp. Again.

Twoball Cane09 May 2015 7:44 p.m. PST

A spy among air pirates? That could be interesting for pulp air and swashbuckling.

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