Only Warlock | 14 Sep 2014 6:53 p.m. PST |
I love westerns and used to love playing TRWNN and I am thinking of plunking down for a new rule set. With those beautiful 4 Ground wild west buildings I think it would be great. What do you guys think, pros and cons of both sets in practice? |
Privateer4hire | 14 Sep 2014 7:18 p.m. PST |
link DMH would be my preference, more subjective than anything else. You can look at sample pages here: PDF link |
Extra Crispy | 14 Sep 2014 8:22 p.m. PST |
Gutshot is more "Roy Rogers" with a Hollywood/RPG feel. DMH more straight Old West. I'd say go for Gutshot as DMH may net feel very different from TRWNN |
svsavory | 14 Sep 2014 9:03 p.m. PST |
I hate to ask, but what is TRWNN? |
shelldrake | 14 Sep 2014 9:13 p.m. PST |
TRWNN = The Rules With No Name I haven't played DMH, gut do play TRWNN and Gutshot, and Gutshot is a lot more fun – and no matter what others might say, it is not a RPG!
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thatotherguy | 14 Sep 2014 10:28 p.m. PST |
Sigh, I'm going to be THAT guy. You ought to check out Desperado. Out of print for the moment, Knuckleduster is working on bringing it back. Fun rules, great guy bringing them back. |
Sergeant Paper | 14 Sep 2014 10:35 p.m. PST |
If we're going Old Skool why not just play "Once Upon a Time in the West"? Now THERE's a game! I still have mine somewhere, I think we eventually figured out how to work the circular calculator thing to get out hit percentages. Here's a whole list of choices: link |
blacksoilbill | 14 Sep 2014 11:16 p.m. PST |
I still have 'Once Upon a Time in the West'. Still remember some great games too. Mind you, we may not have used the hearing rules all that much! |
Bill McHarg | 15 Sep 2014 2:15 a.m. PST |
My personal favorite is Fistful of Lead. |
Only Warlock | 15 Sep 2014 4:27 a.m. PST |
Hmm. How well does Gutshot! Handle 6-8 figures per side? The only reason I am a little leery of it is that it seems to require 1 page character sheet per figure. |
Extra Crispy | 15 Sep 2014 6:58 a.m. PST |
Gutshot would probably bog down with that many figures oer player. Try Legends of the Old West. It assumes each player controls a posse that size. |
badger22 | 15 Sep 2014 6:59 a.m. PST |
Have not played gutshot. Have played a good amount of DMH. I even ran a con game with 4 factions and 8 players. Worked just fine. Owen |
Grelber | 15 Sep 2014 7:43 a.m. PST |
When we play Gutshot, each player usually has three figures to run. Come to think of it, I believe we each had three figures when we tried out DM the other week. We don't play either enough for me to really compare the rules, though. Grelber |
Only Warlock | 15 Sep 2014 12:22 p.m. PST |
Hmm. I think I'm leaning toward Dead Man's Hand. Gutshot! Seems to cater to smaller games than I am interested in. I liked the scale of LotW but it's out of print and the saves really slowed it down. Thanks guys! |
roninrmz | 16 Sep 2014 12:15 p.m. PST |
I have all 3. I think DMH is a great compromise of the 2 systems. I like the resolution of shooting with 1 die roll and no saves. You add all modifiers and roll a 20 sider on a small chart. It is made to be 1 posse against another. I have done this with 2 players up to 8 and was lots of fun. DMH is my go to system for cowboys and the campaign book they put out in the spring is a great addition. |
Dexter Ward | 17 Sep 2014 2:36 a.m. PST |
The cards really make Dead Man's Hand interesting – both for activation and for their other uses. |
mmitchell | 25 Sep 2014 3:52 p.m. PST |
Sorry for taking so long to chime in. I've been tied up with a few projects that will be announced soon. Gutshot was specifically designed to run as a skirmish game, and we suggest your first game limit group size to one player = one character. It will help you master the rules faster. Once you do that, though, handling multiple figures (i.e. running a "Posee" as they call it in Legends of the Old West) is a piece of cake. Although we call them NPC forms, that sheet is great for tracking multiple figs on a single page (hmmmm, now that I think of it, I may update it to include the word "Group" so everyone realizes that sheet can pull double duty). You can find it here, plus some sample pages at our Website: hawgleg.com/downloads.asp Mike Mitchell hawgleg.com |