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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2014 3:42 p.m. PST

I seem to remember someone asking about them a while back, but can't recall who at the moment. I think they may have asked about 15mm.

Anyway, I just found this:

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Cool screencaps and concept art as a little bonus:

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Well I hope the information is still useful.

Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2014 4:22 p.m. PST

Even if done for 15mm, those ships would be pretty massive:

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Tap on these:

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This is cute:

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QUESTION:

Does anyone remember who it was that asked about (15mm?) models for those John Carter airships? I still can't find that thread.

Thanks,

Dan

tsofian Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Sep 2014 4:33 p.m. PST

I might have, but not sure. Either way those images are great!

HistoryPhD Inactive Member13 Sep 2014 4:48 p.m. PST

I think Barsoomian air battles are best done in a scale far smaller than 15mm.

dBerczerk13 Sep 2014 5:08 p.m. PST

Somehow I always found the earlier interpretations of Barsoomian flyers more interesting.

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-- A Fighting Man of Mars cover art by Robert Abbett.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2014 6:04 p.m. PST

Yes. That's what I keep finding, for the most part, among most VSF gamers. Lots and lots of threads about that style.

However, though it might not be in line with ERB canon, a few of us have found the new "Ryan Church" airships to be a rather refreshing departure from the too-obvious boat look, and a very pleasant and bold move toward a spaceship hybrid appearance.

Dan

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2014 5:05 a.m. PST

I was thrilled when the airships appeared in the film. They looked truly splendid on a big screen.

commanderroj Inactive Member14 Sep 2014 5:56 a.m. PST

I prefer a more flying dreadnought look, albeit with maybe a flatter superstructure. Certainly that is the impression that stands out to me from ERB's writing, most especially in Llana Of Gathol, where a fleet attacked a polar city. I don't like the flying cathedrals with wings, although generally I liked the movie, even some of its innovations (but not the walking city!)

Coelacanth Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2014 5:58 a.m. PST

Ryan Church was (if memory serves) the artist who did the redesign of the USS Enterprise for the 2009 Star Trek film; so, he has good days and bad days. I think he was having a very good day when he designed those Barsoomian flyers. Prior to seeing the movie, I pictured them either as giant flying surfboards, or a bit like Jabba's barge from Star Wars. I also remember the Gino d'Achille covers, with a distinctly yacht-like interpretation of the flyers:

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Gino d'Achille art found at: theartofbarsoom.blogspot.com

Ron

dwight shrute14 Sep 2014 7:33 a.m. PST

awesome , I am looking for a 1:1 scale Dejah Thoris :-)

War Monkey14 Sep 2014 7:43 a.m. PST

Seeing that some of the other images are rather boat shape as far as the hulls go, I'm thinking one could make a boat shape vessel add to the sides some pontoons or out riggers with catwalks and gangways. :D

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2014 12:49 p.m. PST

The designs for the film manage to look alien and formidable, yet fragile as well. Unfortunately, they may have been a bit too complex, as it's hard to get a feel for the purposes of all the design elements. They're also a bit "busy" as well.

While I appreciate the nostalgia of the boat style vessel, the water-hull design doesn't make much sense. Yes, a streamlined shape, but more like a fuselage or even a bird or pterosaur profile than a water-going vessel.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2014 1:32 p.m. PST

Parzival,

Well said. All of it!

And, if those new designs were a bit "busy", then check these out (also by Ryan Church):

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Dan

Kropotkin303 Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2014 1:54 p.m. PST

Awesome designs. They are rather reminiscent of these:

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Definitely alien and cool.

kmfrye15 Sep 2014 10:17 a.m. PST

I am looking for a 1:1 scale Dejah Thoris

Aren't we all? :D

I must say, the film versions worked very well for the film. I simply like the Abbett design better for wargaming.

Great Post, Dan!
Keith F.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2014 8:15 a.m. PST

Glad you're enjoying it!

Guys, I think I may have found the thread I was searching for:

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Dan

dilettante Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2014 5:18 p.m. PST

Great thread!

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2014 10:19 p.m. PST

I often hear people say that they pictured them similar to Jabba's sail barge:

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Still boat-like, but at least a bit more alien-like.

Dan

majormike69 Inactive Member30 Sep 2014 10:58 p.m. PST

Disney really screwed us over by not producing lots of cool toys!

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2014 3:29 p.m. PST

They sure did!

Dan

Lion in the Stars01 Oct 2014 5:48 p.m. PST

Disney really screwed us over by not producing lots of cool toys!

A very unusual decision from the Mouse Empire, at that…

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2014 6:19 p.m. PST

Lol. Unusual indeed!

Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2014 6:43 p.m. PST

The more I look at these in the bottom, the more I like:

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Looks like a good hybrid design, somewhere between the nostalgic boat/yacht style and the fresher ones in the JCM film.

Dan

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