"Glueing stowage: before painting, or after?" Topic

Usually I have glued everything before priming.

However I think to make life easier:
1. prime and spray the model, paint the camouflage;
2. paint stowage separately
3. glue everything (with what???)
4. wash/put AP Quickshade
5. lacquer.

Has anyone did if before? I am quite sure I've seen someone did it…

Is it strongly enough?

If using a wash or dip just put the storage on and camo away, you can repaint the storage after. Obviously won't work as well if your using a mask to create the camo

If, like me, you don't buy your stowage until a year after you paint your tanks…

So how do You glue stowage? With superglue? Doesnt it fall apart?

After, then spray with clear flat … Super Glue is generally how I do it … wait overnight for S/glue to cure … then spray with Testor's Dullcote …

If not a good quality super glue such as Zap a Gap or Gorilla glue then use a fast curing epoxy resin such as JB Weld or JB kwik epoxy, i tend to stick items on first and paint afterwards.

I use either zap a gap or a CA gel (zap a gap has a gel too) out of preference. I just glue the stowage on, though I've also waited until I've finished the vehicle and I tend to attach at the beginning depending on the impact the stowage will have on shading and detailing.

If you're having trouble with it adhering to the model due the paint work, give it a spray of varnish first then glue it on. For best results with wash or dip you should gloss or satin varnish the models first anyway.

It's harder to paint the stowage this way, but I glue the stowage before primer, then paint the vehicle as normal, then detail the stowage with a bush.

I use super glue gel, though the liquid stuff holds just as well. I haven't had any trouble from glue I buy at Home Depot or the grocery store. I don't pin the stowage, but if you have a bit that doesn't share a lot of surface area with the vehicle, then pinning is an option. Usually my stowage is squished down into a puddle of glue, and none of it has fallen off yet.

It might be easier to paint the stowage separately from the vehicle, and then glue it down. If I tried that, I would probably scrape away a little of the vehicle paint with an exacto knife to provide a little paint-free spot to glue the stowage bit. That's one way, probably overkill.

I always paint before the stowage. Always.

I generally glue it on with Gorilla cyano after painting both the vehicle and the stowage, unless:

a) I buy prepainted stowage (the vinyl stuff from Hobby Master, for example). I still stick it on after painting but the stowage hasn't actually been painted by me :)

b) I make tarps out of green stuff which I often don't paint much at all (some highlight and straps, perhaps). I let them stick on using just the ntural stickyness of greenstuff putty. I still do this after I've painted the model's hull/camo etc

Note that:

I do often dip after sticking the stowage on.

I always do washes after sticking – especilly washes over the greenstuff tarps – to tone them down

I have never lost a bit of stowage from a single 28mm or 15mm Slammers vehicle (ie any in the rule book or any on the website hammers-slammers.com ). Not once.

I shall stick with stowage after painting as it makes my life sooooo much easier :)

John T

Since i often sculpt my stowage on the model, I tind to glue the extra bits on as well at that point, so I am a sculpt and glue before prime sorta guy I guess….

I usually add stowage after painting but before washes, weathering etc. I've been known to stick the stowage on first though.

For larger models I'll do the stowage after I've base coated or completed the camo pattern. For 15 MM and down though I'll attach the stowage before priming. I think it helps to use black primer because it means you don't need to pay as much attention to where the stowage meets the vehicle, as it'll just look like it's shadows or something.

I always glue before priming.

Theoretically, gluing before priming/painting is best, since you are gluing directly to the model, and not just to the thin primer/paint layer, which may come off under stress.

Gorilla Glue now has a new Super Glue, which is supposedly better than regular Super Glue, since it isn't as brittle as just plain SG.

Can't say for sure, since I haven't tried it yet.

Epoxy glues are very strong, and recommended for secure attachment of items to vehicles.

Thanks for all comments. Will try to glue after painting this time, using epoxy…

Ive never bother, Risk of damaging paintjob during stowage gluing is bigger than difficulty of painting camo near them..

Unless you are airbrushing using some mask.