Editor in Chief Bill | 29 Aug 2014 7:31 p.m. PST |
China called on the U.S. military to stop its "wide in range, highly frequent and close in distance," surveillance missions on the edge of the Chinese mainland, People's Liberation Army officials said in a Thursday Beijing press conferences."These behaviors of U.S. military ships and aircraft could easily cause misperception and miscalculation or even air and sea accidents," Yang Yujun, spokesman for the Chinese Ministry of Defense (MOD), said in response to questions. "Therefore, we do urge the U.S. side to decrease these close-in reconnaissance activities against China towards a complete stop."… link |
piper909 | 29 Aug 2014 9:28 p.m. PST |
Well, sure. I can imagine the US reaction if the Chinese or someone else's military was doing this sort of thing in the Gulf of Mexico, or the east or west coasts. If we keep unilaterally throwing around our weight, we're gonna keep making enemies, is all. People should read more Greek history, especially the causes and aftermaths of the Peloponnesian War. |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 29 Aug 2014 10:01 p.m. PST |
China is a 'potential' rival if not adversary of the US and both sides are doing their 'due diligence,' that's all. I would no less expect American fighters to buzz Chinese and Russian surveillance aircraft that conduct close-in reconnaissance of our secret submarine and naval bases. Nothing to get your feathers ruffled over, folks. |
Jemima Fawr | 29 Aug 2014 10:04 p.m. PST |
Piper, What do you not understand about International Waters and Rights of Navigation? China might not do it to the USA, but they most certainly do that to the teritory of Allied nations (and worse – intruding into territorial waters and intruding into sovereign airspace). If the entire Chinese fleet wants to sail just outside the limit of US territorial waters, they're perfectly entitled to and probably would if they had the capability. |
Lt Col Pedant | 30 Aug 2014 10:35 a.m. PST |
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The Gray Ghost | 30 Aug 2014 1:53 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 30 Aug 2014 2:07 p.m. PST |
I guess that the safe approach to this thread is … no reaction? Dan |
Mako11 | 30 Aug 2014 2:20 p.m. PST |
Yea, everyone else is the problem, except China………. Too funny!!! They did send a lot of ships to observe/interfere with US joint exercises with Japan recently, where we were conducting amphibious landing exercises. I seem to recall their vessels interfering with other exercises in the Pacific as well, not too long ago, in another area as well. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 30 Aug 2014 2:35 p.m. PST |
…the safe approach to this thread is … …to discuss dogfighting scenarios between US and Chinese aircraft? |
Mako11 | 30 Aug 2014 3:53 p.m. PST |
Yes, of course. Just need TD to finish their modern Chinese fighters, which the propreitor said he was hoping to have by last Christmas. Perhaps by this one, I hope. If not, I may need to switch to 1/300th scale, when not fielding those beautiful looking Sukhois, especially since Navwar makes the F-22. |
Rhysius Cambrensis | 31 Aug 2014 12:47 p.m. PST |
This is not the political debate you are looking for… |
Legion 4 | 01 Sep 2014 7:25 a.m. PST |
"China Blames US for Recent Confrontations" And this is a surprise to who ? |
Charlie 12 | 01 Sep 2014 2:07 p.m. PST |
And if the Chinese had the capacity, they would do the same to us… Gee, do I sense some 'surveillance envy'? |
Jemima Fawr | 01 Sep 2014 2:55 p.m. PST |
I'm not sure what you mean by that, but Russian vessels already do perform occasional sail-bys. They have done for many years and it barely gets a mention in the defence press, let alone the national press, because they're perfectly entitled to do so. Why would Chinese vessels or aircraft doing the same be any different? |