"Allow politics on Ultramodern - but flag them" Topic

It's pretty apparent that the discussion on ultramodern, by it's very nature, very easily gets into political discussion very quickly.
However, in my opinion, some posters are starting already with a purely political post. The recent post called something like "it won't be easy to defeat Isis" being a great example. I haven't linked to it deliberately – you think you might want to read it, go find it.
Obviously some feel this is in conflict with the No Politics rule.
I suggest a poll to determine if people would allow politics on ultramodern with the proviso the post title clearly says "politics" or "political discussion"
So I propose

Would you allow politics on the ultramodern board
A. No. Keep it politics free that's what the fez is for
B. Yes – but clearly mark threads so I can choose
C. Yes and no need to flag, politics is just part of these conflicts.

It is difficult to escape the suspicion that Ultramodern is a deliberate trap for the Dawghouse.
I agree that it exists and that it is impossible to keep politics off it. It is the new Current Affairs. I agree with this Poll.
Allow any and all politics on Ultramodern but punish harshly any spillover to "other" Boards. And that INCLUDES "Modern Media".
We are all supposedly adults and should not only act like adults but be treated as such.

All the cowboys who miss the macho raucous CA Board should be able to go to town without any fear of the DH and leave the rest of us in peace. Just keep the rest of TMP free out of it.
I repeat. Make Ultramodern a DH free zone but keep it there. Well, except for personal attacks and abuse of course.

Oh yes. "C".
I got long winded and lost the point.

A, A, and A again… A thousand times over A!

In fact I would go even further. I would rename the Modern Message Boards "Post World War 2" and set up Ultramodern as "Last 10 years" with all the bells and whistles. Those not wishing to view them can either not go there or shut them off.
Shutting them off accomplishes the same thing as the Blue Fez.

Again, punish all spillover at double time in DH.
GROW UP, people.

How can it spill over or fall out except through deliberate bad behavior?
Isn't this part of the reason we have all those new assistant editors , to help with moderation ?

Whatever happened to the good ole "Current Affairs" board?

A. No. Keep it politics free that's what the fez is for

A. No.

Unfortunately I think these boards are only going to make more work for Bill as he tries to police them.

Actually, I would think it would help. There was really no mechanism to stop people from posting inappropriate (by forum rules) political material before. The scoping of the Ultramodern board, if nothing else, would tend to attract such posts away from the several other boards where they might appear (or at least attract cross-posting). That, in itself, makes the site overall easier to police. Focus efforts and attention to the places where they need it the most.

The only thing I'd say in response to General Disaster is Bill seems to be a big fan of the ultramodern board and is quite active in the discussion (as a poster – not as Editor).

The problem, as I see it, with the Fez is it's by invitation only and is dominated by a few strong characters mostly discussing domestic US politics (that way my impression from the visits I made anyway)

Just to clarify my original post:

I am NOT proposing Ultramodern becomes a general Politics board – that is what the Fez is for.

I am proposing "the discussion of current conflicts also includes the political aspect".

This should make moderation easier and LESS contentious.

Edit – all cross posting from ultramodern should be disabled.

One of the reasons I like dedicated forums is so that I can escape everything else going on. I don't want to have to try and avoid it here too.

If people want to discuss Politics or anything to do with current affairs just drop me a pm and I will send you links of discussion groups for every topic imaginable.

C

See you when you get out again!

See you when you get out again!

I wonder if it was a misunderstanding by the relevant editor, due to cultural reasons or something!

When DH'd there doesn't appear to be a right of appeal, or have I missed that somewhere?

Sorry to hear that Tony58. I don't personally see how that could be offensive.

Thanks Mishima, nor do I.

A

Tony, don't you see that your post can be construed as being political in nature? Whose name is plastered all over the image of the golf course aircraft carrier, and what is the message behind that image? I was DH'd for far less than that. In fact I didn't even break a rule but that seems to come with the territory nowadays.

A

Tony, don't you see that your post can be construed as being political in nature? Whose name is plastered all over the image of the golf course aircraft carrier, and what is the message behind that image? I was DH'd for far less than that. In fact I didn't even break a rule but that seems to come with the territory nowadays.

I can see the point up to a point :)

And to be honest, anything can be misconstrued!

But, it was only some light humour!

Anyway no big deal, a minor irritation in the big scheme of things.
Although some dog biscuits and fresh water would have been nice :)

A. No. Keep it politics free that's what the fez is for.
A, A, and A again… A thousand times over A!

Considering that only like %3 of the post has anything to do with actual gaming. Maybe there should be a politics spinoff and let the rest of continue with the gaming.

Ok so I'm feeling mostly people so far want C or A.
That is
to *allow* politics – which *are* being discussed there right now
(In contravention of the no politics rule)
or
NO politics but *enforce* that rule

C'mon Bill – surely you can see my point here.
How does this get made an actual poll?

C.

A million votes for A., although only one counts. 8)=

Isn't this a repeat of a repeat of a repeat poll wherein we all decided we DIDN'T want the CA Board? And that's all this will result in. To quote a Great Man, "How many times will we vote on this before a certain group gets what they want?"

We only need to vote once. It's not an EU membership referendum ;-)

D. Eliminate the board and roll it back into the modern board and just flag the politics.

Why on earth should this be a separate board in the first place? What's the definition? Anything past WWII is modern. You could make a better case for a separate Vietnam board. Way too much compartmentalization.

I'd still like to know why standing up for the rights of Morris Men got me DH'd

Very laudable.
But this isn't the "why did you DH me for standing up for the rights of Morris Men (in blatant disregard for Oscar Wilde's advice)" thread.
So A, B or C.
Ooh, D above is an excellent idea. I think add that to the list definately.

A Keep politics in the Fez. Anyone can ask for, and receive, an invitation to the Fez. If you want to advocate a particular action on the tabletop, fine. But don't argue for it in reality. For example, suggesting a US vs ISIS scenario with OBs victory conditions pix of the table and so forth is fine. advocating any strike against ISIS is over the line. The rhetoric on political discussions is just too unpleasant.