"Falklands Argentine 20mm Questions" Topic

Howdie.

I am looking for 20mm Argentine AT teams…. does anyone make something in 20mm or 1/72? I guess my next best bet is to look for US Korean War bazooka teams in cold weather gear… anyone try this?

Another question: does anyone know if the Liberation / RH Models Argentine figures will be available soon?

I don't join many forums, so I tend to be out of the loop on things :)

Thanks!

Chalfant

MJ Figures do a sadly solitary pack of 20mm Argentine infantry, one of whom is carrying the 90mm M67. Another is sculpted as his No2 with a reload in hand. MJ also do a few packs of 20mm Brits that are also really useful- SLRs with fixed bayonets, Brens and a GPMG. Excellent service too.

On your second question I can't help I'm sorry.

Ha! I had seen the 15mm MJ range a few times, never noticed the 20mm pack. Yep, you are right :) I guess that solves that problem for me, thanks!

Chalfant

Chalfant..i'm too very interested in wargaming/miniatures in 20mm for the defense of Malvinas islands…MJ miniatures are very nice also if i'm not sure that blanket/overcoat carried across the body as depicted in the figures was a commonn practice…About AT weapons i confirm that they offer a blister with a single figure armed with the so called super bazooka..but, in this same forum, the friend cntributor Tango informed us that, in Malvinas, he never saw such a weapon equipping a frontline unit..Instaed, still about MJ figures, i suggest you to buy the spare weapons packet that contain a very nice tripod mounted Recoiless Gun..which, from many picts, was actually part of the defences set up around Puerto Argentino, Pradera del Ganso ecc…
Finally may i also suggest to try to convert former plastic Nato British Paratroopers adding a Argentine/US helmet and givig them a spare plastic/metal bazooka and also look at the very nice, also if dated, line of Malvinas war's Argentinians from Stonewal/Combat Miniatures (operation Corporate)..in my opinion the best researched figures for that conflict:
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Thanks. I have a large number of the Combat Miniatures, and some Platoon 20, for the Argentine forces. Also mortars and HMGs. I could get one of those M40A1, though I think the Argentine forces had their M1968 mounted on tires… that's a good idea, thanks.

Chalfant

I think that men from both sides fought the war they were ordered to fight (none of them had anything to do with why the war occurred). Despite the overwhelming press sentiment at the time, everything I have read, heard, seen about the conflict tells me that it was a hard fought war (though quite short).

As an American, I can't help but think of the British as "allies", and be VERY glad they ARE our allies. At the same time, as someone who did serve in uniform (USMC), I also can't help but feel sympathy for these men on both sides who were sent to fight, and die, in this conflict.

I don't think of either side as "good" or "bad". I am willing to game it as it was not a war I could have fought in (wrong nationality, slightly too young), so I have a degree of separation from it. If I had fought there, I probably would not be gaming it.

Chalfant

Oh!. Yes… it was really hard.
From both parts.
Not good or bad, only soldiers making their job.

And I game it a couple of times (smile)

Good luck with your project my friend!.

Amicalement
Armand

:)

Chalfant

Liberation Miniatures promise a support packs including the Bazooka and Heavy barrelled FN:-

rhmodels.yolasite.com

Their infantry are very good,

As a stop gap I use the P20 WW2 US Battle of the Bulge US teams.

Phil

This reminds me that you should run a game for this at the club soon Chal. Been a while since I was them on the table.

find useful also some Revel US Infantry for the Ardennes..notably the HMG teams..i don't know your feelings or approach about "purism" in wargame..but for a conflict that probably i'll play no more than a few times ..the idea of multi utilisation/versatility of figures could be acceptable..so US infantry in winter gear and generic modern crews could be acceptable both for their original role and also for the occasional use in Malvinas…mine are Airport crews from Airfix in plastic duly used for the Argentines manning the AA/Field Artillery Oto Melara pieces.whith those latter being some horrible non historic soft plastic guns from Atlantic.:-) ecc…

Oh, I like multi-purposing miniatures as much as possible. US Army in cold weather gear (not long coats) from WWII or Korean War would work for some Argentine troops.

I have used my Argentine miniatures for Canadians several times (the Canadians did not have the goggles) …. good way to multipurpose them. I use my Falklands British against my Cold War Soviets, so those get multipurposed too.

Chalfant

Not the same conflict, mind you, but I also tend to "multi-purpose" my minis. I only have so much cash, and a limited amount of time these days for painting, etc.
Thus, Napoleonics were all circa-1806 and those armies were used for both the French Revolution right up until Waterloo (and some ficticious games after that period).

Same thing with my ancients, non-Roman types. Celtic/Gaul/Briton/Germanic, they are all represented by the same units, with just specific traits, strengths, etc, modded into the rules as needed.

Honestly, I don't know how anyone could have the time, let alone the finances, to collect armies for every campaign of specific periods/conflicts.

Totally with you there TKindred :) My 20mm Soviets in Afghanistan use a vehicle camo scheme that looks a lot like Iraqi camo, so I get to reuse most of those vehicles too.

I think that Ancients really has many units that can be multi-purposed, like you say. Even if the same thing, those Numidians / Celts / Greeks etc can be on either or both sides in many a conflict.

Chalfant

"in my opinion the best researched figures for that conflict"

You've done some research on the Falklands?! Who knew??!!