"New Kingdom Egyptian infantry marching " Topic

A new set of figures we recently added to our 28mm New Kingdom Egyptian range

NKE11 New Kingdom Egyptian infantry advancing

These figures have open hands, supplied with a mix of spears and hand weapons allowing them to be used to built up units with varied arms

Hope you like them

Mark

cpmodelsminiatures.co.uk

What scale are they?

Phil
Ancients on the Move

Their website says 28mm (size).

Yes they are 28mm I have amended the above post by adding the scale

Mark

cpmodelsminiatures.co.uk

Thanks … I kind of associate CP Models with (WWII) 20mm so it's always useful if manufacturers are clear what scale their products are when they put these promos up

Phil
EDIT posted at the same time as CP Models amendment – thanks for taking the trouble CP

Hi Phil

I think most people associate CP models with 20mm WWII

So just trying to raise awareness of our 28mm figures but I forgot to add the scale, so thanks for pointing it out

Mark

interesting… I have a New Kingdom Egyptian DBA army arriving tomorrow… since I ordered it two new threads on NKE :)

In the interests of accuracy shouldn't you be saying 'size' rather than 'scale'. 28mm is a size, 1/64 is a scale. If I was buying hobbits to go with my 28mm Elves I wouldn't expect them to be 28mm tall.

Hi Jim

Yes you are right 28mm is not a scale and I mean it to mean that the figures are 28mm size

Having said that I think it is quite common among gamers and manufacturers to quote it as a scale as I have used it here

So I would be interested to know whether people know what is meant and whether it confuses buyers when 28mm is used as a scale

Mark

I think 28mm is a scale. First, it isn't always a size, since many manufacturers measure "foot to eye", meaning that the actual size of the figure is 32mm or thereabouts.

And I bet CP's Egyptian chariot-horses aren't 28mm tall, but they're still "28mm horses". (The same argument would apply to hobbits, JimDuncanUK.) So "28mm" is in fact shorthand for "that scale in which a typical male human is 28mm tall (or 28mm to the eyes, whichever)".

So it's not at all confusing, unless you think about it, when it is.

Hi Mark et al

In general, to many people it does not matter in their own conversations and contexts everyone will know what they mean.

However, in some circumstances it does matter. I have seen some auctions on various sites described as 25mm/28mm, manufacturer unknown. The figures are either 25mm or 28mm, they can't be both. If you knew the manufacturer and the product you could decide before bidding.

It gets really hazy where 20mm and 1/72 are seen to be synonymous whereas some 1/72 are actually 1/76 and the 20mm can be the total height of a figure, headgear included or just foot to eyeline.

I would always attempt to be accurate when using a size or a scale as I can't always be sure that everyone else knows exactly what I mean.

<rant over>

Jim

I have to agree with GurKhan …

I think 28mm (etc) _is a scale (quite specifically _not a size) as it is commonly accepted and used as such. Airfix used to put HO/OO on their boxes (which is a gauge) with the word 'scale' since the 1960s, and wargames manufacturers have been putting what they call 'scale' in mms in published documents using the very approximate height (not size, of course) in reference to scale certainly for over 40 years: usage.

As Martin Goddard will often say of 15mm scale, it is a combination of figures notionally 15mm high from sole to eye with vehicles 1/100 in ratio to the original. The technical meaning of scale as a consistent linear ratio is not the sense in which the word is used in reference to the looser definitions of wargame and soldier ranges.

I agree with Jim about '25/28mm' concept and have always considered it questionable. I have never knowingly bought 25/28 or 15/18 but happily bought figures in all 4 of those specs. (and 1/87, HO, OO, HO/OO, 1/72, 1/76 and 20mm!)

What size would 20mm dwarfs be? I have a pretty good idea what size 20mm scale dwarfs would be … 20mm size dwarfs might well be from a 25mm scale fantasy range.

Phil