Early morning writer | 20 Aug 2014 7:21 p.m. PST |
As in, best ones you've found to be successful for gluing and holding under "battlefield" conditions (surviving multiple trips to the gaming tables)? Probably multiple threads here on this so a pointer is fine but I'm pressed for time. Thanks! EMW |
raylev3 | 20 Aug 2014 7:48 p.m. PST |
Woodland Scenics diluted white glue is great. |
Mr Pumblechook | 20 Aug 2014 8:33 p.m. PST |
Hot melt glue then soaking the foam in diluted PVA to harden it up. It's worked for the bocage so far. Note : Wear cloth gloves (I got some light cotton ones), that lets you apply the glue then immediately squash the foam onto it without burning yourself |
Thomas Nissvik | 21 Aug 2014 2:39 a.m. PST |
I use superglue but that takes time and focus or you end up with green fingers and not in a good way!
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elsyrsyn | 21 Aug 2014 3:35 a.m. PST |
What Ditto said … Aileen's. Doug |
Brian Bronson | 21 Aug 2014 4:57 a.m. PST |
I've used regular "Elmer's" white glue (PVA, I think it is) on Woodland Scenics tree armatures with great success. I have had no luck at all with either Eileen's or Woodland Scenics "tacky" glues; 75% of the foam would fall off within 24 hours. |
Early morning writer | 21 Aug 2014 6:04 a.m. PST |
Thanks for all the ideas – so far. A little more time this morning. I have 120 deciduous trees I'm putting together (on 36 three tree bases and 12 single tree bases), so the project is pretty big, relatively speaking. These will be my 'permanent' woodlands for my gaming table and bases texture matched to ground cloth and hills (a long time goal starting to be realized). I tried a Testor's non-toxic cement years ago that worked to a reasonable degree but still had too many clumps falling off and can't find that glue any more. The white glue idea sounds interesting. Brian, do you have any photographs of your trees and can you tell us how durable your trees have been and how frequent there use has been over time? And, for all, once the clump foliage is glued to the armatures, do you take any 'final' step to 'seal' the clump foliage to the trees? I'm thinking doing that might help keep the clumps from falling off. Just haven't decided what to use to achieve that seal. Any one tried any of those industrial strength glues from the hardware stores, something like Liquid Nails (not sure if it would try clear or not?)? Keep ideas coming, please. |
nevinsrip | 21 Aug 2014 6:36 a.m. PST |
Walther's Goo or Amazing Goop hold better than any white glue or tacky glue that I've tried. I've also used contact cement which holds well also. I know model railroaders push dress making pins through the clumps into the tree branch for added strength. |
Larry R | 21 Aug 2014 6:46 a.m. PST |
Yes Elmer's white glue then a blast of spray adhesive. The Woodland scenics tacky glues are not! |
Ferkitt Android | 21 Aug 2014 7:25 a.m. PST |
I used the woodland scenics hob-e-tac glue for all my trees. If you apply it as it directs you to – leaving it to go clear before adding the clumps – it does what its supposed to do. However it does shed clumps easily. The advantage to it is that it stays "tacky" forever (I've got 3 year old trees that are still tacky!) so you can just press the fallen clumps back on. Alternatively you can soak the clumps in dilute pva then leave them to dry. They go solid so you can then stick them on with hot glue or something similar. |
LostPict | 21 Aug 2014 10:02 a.m. PST |
I have done all these things. Once adhered, I slather it with Matte Mod Podge which will harden up into a nice tough coating that takes lost of wear and tear. Here is a link to my demo on making trees that may help: link Lost Pict |
Glengarry5 | 21 Aug 2014 12:19 p.m. PST |
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Brian Bronson | 21 Aug 2014 6:52 p.m. PST |
My trees are about 2 years old and have been used maybe 6 times. They haven't lost any pieces, but that isn't much use to really know how durable they'll be. Unfortunately, I don't have any pictures. |
KatieL | 22 Aug 2014 2:51 a.m. PST |
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corporalpat | 22 Aug 2014 8:20 a.m. PST |
White glue of any kind does not work well on plastic! It is not designed for that. I tried E6000 and Goop, but like the way hot glue works the best. Make sure you use your glue gun on low heat or you will melt the branches! |