whitejamest | 17 Aug 2014 4:52 p.m. PST |
Personally, I'd love to see a new board called Age of Sail, that would consolidate into it all subject matter that is moved by sail power – with the exception of windmills, though if people feel strongly about that I wouldn't fight it too hard. As it is, Napoleonic Naval has its own dedicated boards (two, which is a bit much) but no other periods with related subject matter have dedicated naval boards. It would be nice to have a single destination to see all this stuff. What do folks think? |
jowady | 17 Aug 2014 5:10 p.m. PST |
I think its a great idea. |
Dave Crowell | 17 Aug 2014 5:36 p.m. PST |
I would definitely suppose an "Age of Sail" board. It can be difficult to tease out naval subjects on the other boards. |
Winston Smith | 17 Aug 2014 5:40 p.m. PST |
No. More Boards encourages more topics. |
The Virtual Armchair General | 17 Aug 2014 6:33 p.m. PST |
Not if Napoleonic Naval Board is blended into an "Age of Sail" board. I'm for making a somewhat more ambiguously titled board that would be the umbrella for anything wind powered. More topics, probably, but only within the one now too narrowly defined board. So there… TVAG |
altfritz | 17 Aug 2014 6:35 p.m. PST |
More boards means never being able to find the thread you were following. |
War Artisan | 17 Aug 2014 7:26 p.m. PST |
Absolutely. It just makes sense. Change the name of "Napoleonic Naval Discussion" to "Age of Sail Discussion", and make it accessible from the Renaissance and Eighteenth Century categories . . . simple, and logical. |
Tango01 | 17 Aug 2014 9:26 p.m. PST |
Strongly support the idea of a "Age of Sail" new board! Amicalement Armand |
Smokey Roan | 17 Aug 2014 9:34 p.m. PST |
I like it a lot! Love playing "Wooden Ships and Iron Men" |
skippy0001 | 18 Aug 2014 2:49 a.m. PST |
Oars, Ragwagons and Steam-you could cover three eras easily on one board. Ragwings, Gasbags and Duralumin-covers Biplanes, Pulp and InterWar AeroTech Would like to see a aerospace board. Covering Pulp rockets to scramjets |
Blutarski | 18 Aug 2014 2:57 a.m. PST |
I think the idea makes sense. "Age of Sail" is a universally understood and accepted subset of miniature gaming. B |
Cerdic | 18 Aug 2014 5:33 a.m. PST |
Sounds like a good idea to me! |
jrbatso | 18 Aug 2014 5:55 a.m. PST |
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Arakus | 18 Aug 2014 7:56 a.m. PST |
Age of sail board would be great! |
138SquadronRAF | 18 Aug 2014 5:30 p.m. PST |
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Volunteer | 19 Aug 2014 12:06 a.m. PST |
I absolutely agree as well. Jeff has it right: "Age of Sail Discussion" accessable from all era boards except perhaps modern. Right now you can't find Anglo/Dutch War posts, Galley War posts, French vs English 7YW naval, etc. Because it's scattered all over. |
KTravlos | 23 Aug 2014 9:21 a.m. PST |
I support Age of Sail as a board. |
Great War Ace | 24 Aug 2014 12:38 p.m. PST |
More boards, oh just lovely…. |
hindsTMP | 24 Aug 2014 6:19 p.m. PST |
a new board called Age of Sail, that would consolidate into it all subject matter that is moved by sail power This seems illogical from a practical organizational perspective. Historical gaming is by definition associated with different historical periods. For example, if I am doing Napoleonic naval, I don't want to see ancient naval mixed in with it, as it makes it harder to find what I am looking for. This is particularly true since people often use less-than-stellar topic descriptions, so one has to access each topic to see what it actually covers. The ideal would be a naval board for each major historical period in TMP. Otherwise, have the "Age of Sail" board include Anglo-Dutch Wars through Napoleonic, but nothing else. So "Galleys" would still remain for Ancient naval, perhaps expanded to cover Rennaisance. "Ironclads" would also remain for the ACW era. MH |
Yellow Admiral | 26 Aug 2014 7:22 p.m. PST |
This is what I would have suggested, if Jeff hadn't said it first:
Change the name of "Napoleonic Naval Discussion" to "Age of Sail Discussion", and make it accessible from the Renaissance and Eighteenth Century categories . . . simple, and logical. While we're at it, shouldn't we also change "Napoleonic Naval Painting Guides" to "Age of Sail Painting Guides"? I also agree with this:
The ideal would be a naval board for each major historical period in TMP. Otherwise, have the "Age of Sail" board include Anglo-Dutch Wars through Napoleonic, but nothing else. So "Galleys" would still remain for Ancient naval, perhaps expanded to cover Rennaisance. "Ironclads" would also remain for the ACW era. I don't know why this consolidation request was cross-posted to the "Galleys" board; Galleys should remain a separate topic from an "Age of Sail" board, and appear under the ANCIENTS BOARDS, MEDIEVAL BOARDS and RENAISSANCE BOARDS topic groupings. Ideally, I'd like to see a topic "NAVAL GAMING BOARDS" topic containing the naval discussion boards from each genre:
Galleys Age of Sail Age of Sail Painting Guides Pirates Ironclads Naval Gaming 1898-1929 WWII Naval Discussion WWII Naval Gallery WWII Naval Painting Guides WWII Naval Product Reviews Modern Naval Discussion Fantasy
Naval gamers tend to be an avid but separate interest group, so I'm not sure why this doesn't exist already. Has this already been discussed to death on TMP? - Ix |
whitejamest | 26 Aug 2014 7:42 p.m. PST |
"This seems illogical from a practical organizational perspective." Really the practicality of it depends on what purpose the organization has. If the intention is to keep separate boards so people only interested in one time period don't have to wade through other material, then the current arrangement is already doing that well. If the purpose of the organization is to collect a wider range of material in to one location so that interested readers don't have to visit as many separate places, then a consolidation board would be useful. Personally, as someone who is particularly interested in all sailing ship models and games, I'd enjoy a tool that would let me see more from one location. And I feel that the volume of posts for this subject matter is not now and is highly unlikely in the future to reach such a volume that too much cluttering would result. That said, I too would be inclined to "start" it after galleys (that was not my cross-posting). An end date probably would not be necessary, since nobody games sailing ship combat in the 20th century, and sailing racing games are pretty few and far between, so will not cause clutter. But Yellow Admiral's suggestion of a single Naval Board would also be great. The period-specific boards could remain, and people can just cross-post to Naval in general. Then someone like me could just park there and soak it all in, which is really my only objective here :) |
Yellow Admiral | 26 Aug 2014 10:27 p.m. PST |
But Yellow Admiral's suggestion of a single Naval Board would also be great. The period-specific boards could remain, and people can just cross-post to Naval in general. Sorry if I was unclear, but that isn't quite what I meant. I meant we should have an extra topic collection called "NAVAL GAMING BOARDS" at the very top of the Message Boards page. When you click into one of those, you see a list of actual boards to post to/read from, and the list I made above is a collection of all the naval discussion boards (that I've found) scattered across various Message Boards topic headings. A new topic heading doesn't require creation of any new boards, and such multiple-subject categorization already exists for several boards (e.g. Principles of War, DBx, Field of Glory, etc.). I'm suggesting that, with a few exceptions, the existing naval discussion groups serve the interests of the TMP community pretty well, and all we really need to do is recognize that "naval gaming" is an interest category with enough critical mass to make a "naval gaming boards" topic a good idea. On the original topic, I also support the idea of changing the title of "Napoleonic Naval Discussion" to "Age of Sail Discussion" because, really, that's how we all use that board now anyway. The postings about pre-Napoleonic naval miniatures and history is definitely a small percentage of the traffic, but it's in there. Where else would it go? There aren't any "Armada Period" or "Anglo-Dutch Wars" or "18th Century Naval" boards, and there probably shouldn't be; there isn't really enough pre-Napoleonic "fighting sail" posting traffic to justify a whole new board for each other era, or even all of them together. We occasionally get some nice postings about the Anglo-Dutch Wars period (thanks largely to Langton's irresistably beautiful ADW models), and very rarely about AWI or SYW or Armada period naval gaming.
Along similar lines, the "Galleys" discussion board has occasional postings about Renaissance galleys and galleys of the Baltic wars (18th/19th C.), yet "Galleys" only appears under "ANCIENTS DISCUSSION BOARDS". There certainly aren't any other boards that are a better fit, so I'm merely suggesting we recognize current usage patterns and just include the Galleys board under the other headings where discussions of galley warfare and galley miniatures are appropriate: "MEDIEVAL BOARDS", "RENAISSANCE BOARDS", and "18TH CENTURY BOARDS", and maybe even "NAPOLEONICS BOARDS". - Ix |
Father Grigori | 13 Oct 2014 6:04 a.m. PST |
A 'Rum, Sodomy and Lash' board? |
Pyrate Captain | 14 Oct 2014 7:08 a.m. PST |
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Tango01 | 14 Oct 2014 11:55 a.m. PST |
Age of Sail … PLEASE!. Amicalement Armand |
ScottS | 15 Oct 2014 7:07 p.m. PST |
I like "Age of Sail," and I like Yellow Admiral's idea to consolidate the naval boards. |
Capt Flash | 17 Oct 2014 9:23 a.m. PST |
Agreed. Age of Sail. To also include fantasy naval games as well… |