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Eagleman Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Aug 2014 10:06 a.m. PST

I have just posted pictures of the new Dutch/Belgian Jaeger sculpts in 28mm that I recieved this week. Check out the link below. The sculptor has done a great job getting expression into the faces.

link

Cheers Ian

eaglefigures.co.uk

bc174515 Aug 2014 10:08 a.m. PST

Nice……..

ferg98115 Aug 2014 12:44 p.m. PST

Wow

These are fantastic figures.

Another army I shouldn't really be starting…

F

Nadir Shah15 Aug 2014 8:52 p.m. PST

Well done Ian, nice work :)

xxxxxxx16 Aug 2014 10:15 a.m. PST

Ian,

These are really great for 28 mm. They look like larger figures, and I would never have guessed that they were 28's unless you said so.
"Wow", indeed.

- Sasha

Sapeur17 Aug 2014 2:51 a.m. PST

Good looking figures. Standard bearer is of great interest.
When will these be available to purchase please?

Eagleman Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Aug 2014 4:15 a.m. PST

I Hope to have them in production by the end of september. The next project is to have the flank companies done as well so that you can field line and flank companies. Followed by Dutch/Belgian artillery crews.
Glad you like them.
Ian

E Muilwijk17 Aug 2014 5:35 a.m. PST

The figures look nice, although I would like to remark the knot in the sash for the officers is way too prominent and refined. Also officers did wear there trousers over their boots. I also have my doubts on the way the horn is correctly represented.

E Muilwijk17 Aug 2014 5:40 a.m. PST

For the rank and file themselves it is important to notice none of these uniforms decreed in January 1815 were actually available in June of that year. The men still wore their 1814 uniforms, meaning the shako was French type and not the Austrian type. And trousers were à la hongroise stuck in a little darker grey gaiters that came up halfway the calfs (and had a point upwards in front).
The 'usual' uniform we nowadays know as such, was only provided after the 1815 campaign, meaning introduced in 1816 when old uniforms were worn through.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2014 10:25 a.m. PST

Now this is an important issue. On a scale of 1-10 it is 11. I fully accept the answer to most questions about 1815 is that no-one knows and everything was in transition. I do understand that DB artillery, horse or foot, was certainly nothing like what I have in my collection. Let's face it, we rely on artists working up to a decade after the events and relying on what they then saw……contemporary fashion.

But you are telling us to forget the shako with the peak at the back? For infantry, everything we now have is right for 1816, but not 1815…….the overalls were not worn despite their value as practical wear……..?

After two visits to the Brussels museum, I am convinced the answer is still…..anything went by June 1815. Transition is like that.

But you are the expert, that we all know! Tell us more……This is important. A whole nation (two actually…Netherlands North and South) that fought at "Waterloo" may yet be wrongly represented, in all our modelling

welly181517 Aug 2014 11:07 a.m. PST

How do these fit in with other ranges , are they like Perry figures or a bit more chunky like Front Rank

E Muilwijk18 Aug 2014 3:50 a.m. PST

Most interesting are the deviations between the Dutch troops still wearing 1814 uniforms and the Belgians being re-equiopped after their teriitories west of the Meuse came under Dutch rule and were often clad in the 1815 style uniforms. But even here were deviations with Belgian btns. having a sabre-briquet for all ranks, even privates, where for the Dutch troops privates had none.

BTW, I am not the expert, a friend of mine is, who is doing a lot of archival research for years now and hopes to start publishing in 2015.

Eagleman Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Aug 2014 4:42 a.m. PST

Hi Welly, They are slightly chunkier than a perry figure but not unduly so. Not as Chunky as a front rank figure.
I hope that helps.
Cheers
Ian

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2014 12:34 p.m. PST

Well this shows what a marvellous forum this is.

I "knew" that Belgian light infantry (Chasseurs) did not wear the Belgic shako, I "knew" the HA wore some kind of colour stripe on their shoulder roll (red, yellow, white who knows?). I "knew" the guns were painted in French Artillery green (unless it was Austrian yellow/brown of course)…….

But I never "knew" about the sabre-briquette difference.

Can I ask a daft question? Were they actually called "Belgian" units, whilst in the Netherlands Army? If the country did not then exist, were they not just the old Austrian Netherlands, or Walloon, or Flemish, or Pays Bays, or Low Countries, or South Netherlands,or………?

E Muilwijk19 Aug 2014 4:34 a.m. PST

Most documents of the time make the simple distinction between Dutch (i.e. Hollands) or Belgian (no distinction per se in Flemish or Walloon); terms as North- and Southnetherlands are from much later. Same goes for the term national militia, as in June 1815 one was still more inclined to refer to these in their previous term landmilitia.

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