"Perry/Warlord Plastic vs Perry Metal" Topic

Is it just me or are the Perry Plastics AWI "smaller" (less bulky) than their metal counterparts? Not so much the height, but more the body "mass"? Could it just be the way they look in photos, but they seem a bit different. How would they look together on the same base?
By the same token, how about Warlord Games? how do they compare with Perry plastic and metals?

I didn't even know Warlord was making AWI figures. Man there is some serious trend following with three companies making AWI plastics now.

I don't know about AWI, but there's some pics of metal and plastic perry and victrix naps compared here:
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A couple posts down. Interestingly the plastic is a touch chunkier than the metal.
They are a touch different, but not too much and would look fine side by side.

My mistake Pictors, that should be Wargames Factory….

You are right, plastic figures are slimmer and its details are less "3D" than in their metal counterparts. They allow better correct-scale rendering of muskets and other items, but I much prefer the metal "exagerations" as they are easier to paint and for me the end effect is more dramatic-artistic.

Some more comparison photos here…

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Again, they are Napoleonic but may be helpful. Keep scrolling down as there are quite a few. Click on the photo to enlarge….

I bought 1 box each of the Warlord AWI figures. Not to my taste sadly. Not much pose variations, and are in early War uniforms. Also rather stiffly posed IMO.

Bob

Bob
Warlord don't do any AWI figures; those will be the Wargames Factory ones mentioned by Karl von Hessen in his second post.
Cheers
Steve

Warlord don't do any AWI figures; those will be the Wargames Factory ones mentioned by Karl von Hessen in his second post.
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Ooops! I stand corrected,ty!

Bob

Bob's issue is there isn't enough pose variation in the Wargame Factory figures. My issue is that there is too much pose variation in both the WF and Perry sets. I guess it comes down to what you wanted or were hoping for in a 30 figure set. To my eye the WF continental set is closer to later Continentals in their French supplied uniforms. I haven't assembled the WF British yet, but they appear to be official rather than campaign uniforms.

Bob's issue is there isn't enough pose variation in the Wargame Factory figures. My issue is that there is too much pose variation in both the WF and Perry sets. I guess it comes down to what you wanted or were hoping for in a 30 figure set. To my eye the WF continental set is closer to later Continentals in their French supplied uniforms. I haven't assembled the WF British yet, but they appear to be official rather than campaign uniforms.
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French Lottery Coats were much shorter than the "regulation" issue coats of the period. Facings were also shorter,and the cuff design was much different. I would also prefer some figures in hunting shirts,or workmans frocks,as a good portion of a Continental regiment only had these and not a serviceable coat. I always mix in figures in hunting shirts,or civilian clothing to my Continental units.

Bob

The plastic Perry figures do have a different look to them than their metal range (the material accounts for this).
I've both sets of plastics, that is Perry and WF on the go at the present and there's a clear difference between the two.
So they don't mix in the same unit and I'm using the WF as grenadiers and lights as it takes very little work to "cut" down the coat tails. Perry arms don't look out of place, but I have to paint on the lace wings.
We are only playing skirmish games after all aren't we Pete? Like that's going to last…..

It is my understanding figures in hunting shirts are included in the WF militia set. I intend to mix them in when they come out.

Bob, do you have a source for your information on the cut of the French lottery coats? I am aware that certain units received shorter coats, but have not seen anything suggesting this was universal among late war coats.

Perry plastic figures are excellent and they paint up very well. Metal command figures mix in well with the plastic figures either Perry or Foundry. Like having different poses and kit for the Americans. Excellent stuff!

The Perry plastics are indeed less bulky than their metal counterparts. That continues a trend from their Napoleonic infantry sets and is pretty standard. That said, as someone who's put together units for various armies hang metals and plastics, I don't think it's a problem. The most noticeable point of difference is the muskets and bayonets, which are much more slender in plastic than in metal – it's easy to spot the difference when metals and plastics are in the same unit. But IMHO it doesnt matter that much and metals that don't have bayonets, like command, fit in with plastics absolutely fine.

Giles

Could this phenomenon perhaps be attributable to the fact that the plastics masters are sculpted at three times production size, leading to a natural tendency to sculpt more realistic proportions?

I agree the Perry plastics are very good figures and that they mix remarkably well with the metals. I can see what's meant by the bayonets, they are slightly finer but still very durable.

For information I just took a few pics showing plastics and metals side by side, I think it really is hard to tell the difference once painted up?

Hope this helps.

Lee.

Bottom pic: L to R – metal, plastic, metal, plastic, metal, metal, plastic.