"Brigade based rules search" Topic

Hi there,

there's a wealth of rules for Brigade-based (Corps or Army level command) games, but once again I turn to the wise veterans of TMP for rules recommendations with my specific criteria.

1: Command system featuring at least brigade, division and corps level HQs, and rated by command level (preferably 4 levels or more).

2. Brigades caught or "going commando" behind enemy lines should suffer C&C and supply issues and are likely doomed. (Seen some rulesets allowing commando brigades continuing to threaten VLs behind the lines)

3. Brigades rated by veterancy level (pref. 4 levels), level affecting things besides casualty tolerance (for example, in F&F, elites and green troops perform identically before stands are removed).

4. Multi-stand brigades according to strength preferred (so the strength of the brigades can be visually identified), my 6mm troops are on 20x20mm stands

Is there anything like this out there?

Thanks!

While a regimental level tactical unit based game, Napoleonic Quickie has everything you have listed in a fast play rules set that requires little or no charts to play.

Resolution per battalion / regiment ala Black Powder is fine, as long as the command is brigade based, and the rules are indeed "quick" enough for the Grand Tactical level.

"Napoleonic Command" from War Artisan

warartisan.com/rules

Try Zouave II or Field Of Battle 2nd edition, or Volley & Bayonet.

There is only one Brigade that can truly "go Commando" behind enemy lines: 3 Cdo Bde RM.

That said; V&B or Grande Armee are perhaps the rules to tryout. 3" sq bases = 1 brigade equivalent. Not seen any other rules that do this implicitly.

@ Zelekendel,

Your looking for a game something like FnF brigade or Black powder where the unit is a large regiment or brigade of X to Y stand qty?
Would this be correct?
You have already looked and Age of Eagle (the FnF NAp variant)?
MG

Age of Eagles fits the bill.

Age of Eagles is one of the best sets at that scale, and it's quick.

Napoleon's Battles has an excellent c+c section but isn't a fast game.

grande Armee is truly excellent and iirc the fast play rules are still available from the deep fried happy mice site as a free download.

Volley and bayonet won't have the c nc stuff you want, otherwise it's a nice set

Despite earlier opinion to the contrary, IMHO napoleonic quickie won't deliver your specs. – far from it!

I can't think of a single set of rules which has all your requirements. My preferred set (Polemos General de Division) does quite well. Perhaps FoG Napoleonic would work too? And Age of Eagles?

If you ditch #4 and don't want too much detail at brigade-level at #1, then Grande Armee is good.

How much detail do you want at brigade-level at #1? It is unusual to have much command and control at the level of the basic maneouver unit in most games, I think?

Regards

Zel – my solution to this for the ACW (which you're welcome to come over and try) was to break down V&B into linear units of a nominal 1000 men that can combine to form a standard, supported "square" brigade unit or operate as a single line, and then to bolt on a simple, orders-oriented C&C system.

Not sure about point two. Is not wearing any underwear relevent?

Napoleonic quickie is brigade command with regiment tactical units. There are only 29 pages of rules and they cost $20. USD If you have the figures, you can run any size game you like. I have about 1000 figures and with all of them on the table I conclude a game in a day. There are plenty of options, however, good hunting :)

Hi there,

there's a wealth of rules for Brigade-based (Corps or Army level command) games, but once again I turn to the wise veterans of TMP for rules recommendations with my specific criteria.
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Greetings,
You could consider the rules, "A Firebell in the Night".
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1: Command system featuring at least brigade, division and corps level HQs, and rated by command level (preferably 4 levels or more).
Brigade rated 1 to 6, Division and Corps rated at four levels, Army range of 10.
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2. Brigades caught or "going commando" behind enemy lines should suffer C&C and supply issues and are likely doomed. (Seen some rulesets allowing commando brigades continuing to threaten VLs behind the lines)
Brigades out of command, have limited offensive ability, with no support this also weakens any attack, Ammo can be an issue if low on supply it would be very risky.
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3. Brigades rated by veterancy level (pref. 4 levels), level affecting things besides casualty tolerance (for example, in F&F, elites and green troops perform identically before stands are removed).
Brigades have four levels, Elites will teach a few things to Militia, Fire combat or Melee..
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4. Multi-stand brigades according to strength preferred (so the strength of the brigades can be visually identified), my 6mm troops are on 20x20mm stands
Each base in Firebell represents 300 men.
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Is there anything like this out there?
Any questions, I'm glad to help. John

Thanks!

You might want to give a look to On To Richmond. I don't know about the new redo, but the original is pretty close to what you seek.

Try theses link which are free on the internet as a PDF. Have ideas which you possibly might like.

Regards

Not sure if my rules meet all your requirements, but feel free to modify them to suit your preferences. They're free and available in your choice of format:
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