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marshalGreg25 Jul 2014 7:58 a.m. PST

Just trying to get some ideal of the fighting there's impact on mailings.
Looking to purchase more figures from a source there.
Was wondering what other experienced in the last 2 mo of any of your orders you had made in regards to the result/timing/interruption of the mail delivery for it?

thanks
MG

Sparta25 Jul 2014 8:13 a.m. PST

I have had only great experiences, and they have currently finished a large batch that I send two months ago.

marshalGreg25 Jul 2014 8:47 a.m. PST

revised for better clarification of what is requested
thanks in advance

MG

skipper John25 Jul 2014 9:16 a.m. PST

I wouldn't send anything Air Mail.

vaughan25 Jul 2014 9:55 a.m. PST

skipper John, real funny, their still being flown back to be identified.

jeffreyw325 Jul 2014 10:57 a.m. PST

I'm real curious to know how they get around customs in the Ukraine. If everything is working well, that's good to hear.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP25 Jul 2014 11:59 a.m. PST

I was going to say "I would not send my credit card details mind you."

and then;

"There is a Nigerian set up, who will do any figures you want, painted to exhibition standard, at a knock down price. All you need to do is respond to their e mail with bank details etc…….."

But it has occurred to me in the one hour left, before the message is "fixed", that maybe some poor devils are struggling to run a legit business……that is no joke…….God help them all. If we cannot.

Sparta25 Jul 2014 12:50 p.m. PST

They have painted a load of 6 mm for me over the years, I have never seen anyone paint Adler to that quality. There has never been any problems with Ukrainian customs. I was in contact with them yesterday, and since they are based in kiev, they are not directly affected.

marshalGreg25 Jul 2014 1:09 p.m. PST

Guys
my request was not meant to start a joke. I understand the BS in the Ukraine and what had happen to the airlines facilitates such.
I was hoping to receive solid information in order to make a sound decision.
Can that still happen please?!

I hope you all are not a or the posse out to drive folks from the TMP, which seems to be on a current rise?
I can now appreciate why some are leaving.

MG

jeffreyw325 Jul 2014 1:32 p.m. PST

Pardon my butting in, but Sparta, how do you end up paying for the painting? Wire transfer?

thanks!

far too old guard25 Jul 2014 1:40 p.m. PST

Find out where in Ukraine they are and then look at a map and find out what region they are in .If they are in the disputed Donetsk and similar regions it may be worth checking out more .There is no war in the bits of the Ukraine that Putin doesnt contest………yet.

Jcfrog25 Jul 2014 2:44 p.m. PST

OGp are in Kiev

you can pay by card
transfer (usually to Denmark / some family there)
euro chq which ends up there too.
As long as the place is not under air strikes by TU 22 M it should ok.

You could recover the parcel ok in wreckage if it comes to it. well maybe melted.

Robert Burke25 Jul 2014 2:48 p.m. PST

I live in the US. I've bought several figures from OGP (great paint jobs). They have an agent in the US and I send payments to him via Paypal.

Sparta25 Jul 2014 11:59 p.m. PST

I have always payed via danish bankaccount. Vladimir the owner speaks Danish and has lived here in Denmark years ago.

rmcaras Supporting Member of TMP26 Jul 2014 3:40 a.m. PST

I have bought [from their painted inventory – like they are advertising now on TMP] as well as sent over figures from my inventory to be painted.

Never a problem, except once, the figures got lost in the mail, in the USA! But eventually got there and painted right away and returned.

As mentioned above, OGP has a US agent, Dan Murawski, who also serves as Fall-In Convention Director for HMGS. You can communicate AND pay him via Paypal for your figures. Dan is located in/near Erie, PA, IIRC. In the past. Dan may also have some painted figure inventory held here in the states as well. He is on TMP, especially about topics on Fall-In on the Convention Boards.

Hope that helps. They currently are finishing an order for me [over $500 USD]. They do a very nice job. I can send some pics of figures [Austrians] I have ready to base if interested.

rick caras

jsmcc9126 Jul 2014 10:12 a.m. PST

I purchased numerous lots of Seven Years War 15mm figures from Vladimir in the past and never had one issue with dealing with them. As Rick stated, and through my experience, I sent payment to his agent Dan for many of my orders. I recommend OGP also.

Jay

ulahtonius Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Jul 2014 10:47 a.m. PST

Dear Gentelmen!

Thank you for your kind words and concern, please remember that it is our mission to deliver you finely painted figures
as we have done in the past.

The current situation in Ukraine is complicated. On the one side we have a "bandit" nabour who you can not call otherwise as a bandit as he:

Infiltrates your ranks/ spheres of life with his
agents who spend millions on implementing a Russian culture/
+ disintegration of our defence and military this is what Putin in Russia, has been doing. He has supplied weapons and the best part, since there were no local leader that wanted
a Donetsk or Lugansk country he has sent his Russian citizen to be leaders in the rioting region. They did get some support after spending hundred of millions of dollars there
but this was more zombie effect rather the problem inside the country. Please remember that many of the terrorist are either soldiers of fortune (from Chechen and Caucasian regions) or totally brainwashed people who has been waiting propaganda for 10 or more years.

What Putin is currently doing is letting his rockects
like the Grad missile systems fire from Russian soil on Ukrainian forces, this is a provocation as you understand to get the Ukrainian forces to fire back and to invade..
All intel including US shows that the Malaysian air was shot down by a SA11 land to air missile (BUG M1 rocket complex) that can hit targets up to 23km, this is a serious toy supplied by the Russian government, with Russian pro crew that could hit the liner, which they mistaken for an AN transport airplane from the Ukrainian military.

You must understand that what we have here is a start of a
conflict that could develop in a WW3, and we are the currently the only defending Europe's and perhaps even US interest here, if Ukraine is overrun the EU will be next, so better to stop it now.

Nevertheless in Kiev things are quiet currently the capital is functioning all right, air mail is working well so until
the Russian forces get to Kiev, we will work as usual. I keep a close eye on the process and will notify you if there will be a risk for your orders. If such situation will arise
I will simply stop taking in orders and refund the old that can not be fulfilled.

I appreciate your concern and as I know many of you for years I wanted to let you know what is currently going on from the firs person account. I have no reason to make things up as I am a foreigner here myself with my EU Danish citizenship!
Take care and may God bless us all and we will get through this together, sorry if I am to emotional but so speaks my heart!!!

Regards,
Vladimir

ulahtonius Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Jul 2014 11:03 a.m. PST

One thing more, by shooting down the malaysian air, Putin has
accomplished one thing, many planes that were transit in Ukraine are now not flying over Ukrainian teritorry and economicly it is billion of dollars and another hit on our economy, this is only one of the many actions to destroy Ukraine as a independent state. If we do not speak up now and if Ukraine is not supported it will result in an occupation and Poland & Baltics will be next. You will say that they are members of NATO etc. I understand but please remember that it is easy to start a war and hard to end it! Take care guys I value you all and appreciate your support and orders during the last 10 years!

tuscaloosa26 Jul 2014 12:56 p.m. PST

I think supporting Ukrainian businesses is a way to stick your finger in Putin's eye.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP26 Jul 2014 3:39 p.m. PST

I'll say again God help you all, because we seem unable to. Maybe it is too near to 100 years from 1914 and we fear getting into something we cannot stop….maybe because now it would be my three sons and not me called to fight.

Again I say, if you are struggling to run a legitimate business, the very best to you all!

TKindred Supporting Member of TMP26 Jul 2014 4:34 p.m. PST

God Bless you, Vladamir, and all of your countrymen fighting to keep your independence. I'll see if I can scrape up the funds for an order, even a small one, just to do my part to help out a little.

One thing for certain, is that I've stopped purchasing anything from any company in Russia.

I wish there was more that we could do for you, and for Ukraine.

Bohdan Khmelnytskij27 Jul 2014 8:14 p.m. PST

Putin Khuilo

ulahtonius Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Jul 2014 2:12 a.m. PST

Thanks Gents! Greatly appreciated!

srge joe28 Jul 2014 5:40 a.m. PST

Gents, Maybe i missed something no link? greetings serge joe

Freiherr Graham28 Jul 2014 10:00 a.m. PST

Long live free and independent Ukraine!

Tricorne197112 Aug 2014 7:43 a.m. PST

As a former government lawyer, I have worked in Donetsk and Artemivsk on several visits assisting in local government structure from the mid-1990's. I still keep in touch with many there.
I also endorse Vladimir's painting business.

srge joe19 Aug 2014 2:41 a.m. PST

gents, Just send them by train no planes! If you want your figs to survive greetings sege joe

srge joe19 Aug 2014 2:45 a.m. PST

Long Leve de vrije en onafhankelijke Oekraïne!
greetings serge joe

joe serge06 Sep 2014 9:46 a.m. PST

Do not matter firm and size 15 28 mm? joe serge

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP06 Sep 2014 4:01 p.m. PST

Size does not matter, but it does have to be firm, Joe Serge!

Hope you are keeping well.

Please God Ukraine is not another Sudetenland…….Peace in Our Time would actually be a very good idea (even if only in Western and Middle Europe)

heavyhorse06 Sep 2014 4:34 p.m. PST

I for one an ashamed of the WEST and most especial the EU for it's spineless reaction to Putin by putting multi-national profits ahead of a people right to self determination without outside interference. But that's just my opinion.. here's hope for a free and independent Ukraine

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