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Deadone22 Jul 2014 7:18 p.m. PST

Just read David Blakely's Maverick One.

Apparently a true story of the 2IC of British Army's Pathfinder platoon.

It reads like the type of trash you find in men's magazines. The dude was best at everything blah, blah. They were all hardcore. Higher officers were morons unless they were in the dude's unit.

But what gets me thinking is some wierd errors:

1. In Sierra Leonne, he apparently flies on to HMS Illustrious to negotiate with the captain to get the ship into position for providing naval gunfire support to UK forces based at Freetown airport. This is mentioned a few times. Now HMS Illustrious is an aircraft carrier and doesn't pack anything heavier than 20mm-30mm AA guns. It carried Harriers at time but surely they would've been in range and the author was explicitly talking about NGFS.


2. In Iraq he talks about USMC being effectively defeated in Battle of Nasiriyah in 2003. The Marines took casualties, that is true (1/3rd to friendly fire and additional to ambush of a maintenance company taking a wrong turn i.e. Jessica Lynch). But they certainly weren't defeated by Saddam's forces.

3. In one picture he talks about being in South Africa so carrying local weapons and then specifically mentions it was an Ak-47. Now the picture clearly shows a South African Vektor R4. What kind of spec ops operator doesn't know the difference between an Ak-47 or even Ak-74 Kalashnikov and a Vector R4?

4. He also didn't seem to understand his own officer training -e.g. questions concepts such as mask of command (basically an officer being aside from his men – this is a basic HR management concept to allow for objective and impartial management. Leading men in combat as well as managing units in combat is the ultimate in management).

5. Like many modern biographies, he quotes entire conversations that he had years/decades ago word for word. Really? Most people can't remember what they were told. Indeed we have that whole "Chinese Whispers" phrase to denote how people misconstrue things.

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But I've noticed a common theme in many modern biographies/modern biographies.

They're written in a tabloid format – lot of swearing, lots of unsubstantiated claims, written in idiot language, lots of whole conversations remembered.

Very often the books make out to be more than what they are e.g. Frank Walker's The Tiger Man Of Vietnam which accusess CIA of plotting to kill an Australian spec ops guy without any substantiation whatsoever.

Or another one by some supposed French resistance fighter who mentions all these battles and failed ambushes but then you realise he was never actually in them.

There's generally always disparaging comments about Americans too in these books, especially in the Australian ones which usually accuse American troops of being overequipped, incompetent tyros.

And so often there are so many glaring errors that one wonders if it's all made up.

I would not call any of these books military history.

HistoryPhD22 Jul 2014 7:56 p.m. PST

They're basically updated versions of the old dime novels

Zephyr122 Jul 2014 8:03 p.m. PST

I see those types of books a lot at the flea market book vendors. I have to dig past them to look for the now-scarce OOP and excellent Ballantine WW2 war books….

Sparker23 Jul 2014 4:27 a.m. PST

Good point about the Lusty being a flat top and not carrying NGS guns. Even if he was attending a conference to discuss the use of the Escort's NGS, he wouldn't be talking to the Captain. CO of Flat Tops tend to be ex aviators, whereas a PWO Above Water Warfare trained officer would have been planning/negotiating Naval Fires…Maybe to a pongo any fairly senior naval person is the Captain, but these days everyone is pretty Purple savvy – I agree with your reservations…

Maxshadow23 Jul 2014 4:32 a.m. PST

I read an interesting book that claimed to show that Bravo two zero book mostly a work of fiction.

OSchmidt23 Jul 2014 7:14 a.m. PST

Dear List

Ah well…

Yes Maxshadow. I too simply ignore these works. Sorry to brag, but I've gotten very skillfull at recognizing them by the cover.

RTJEBADIA23 Jul 2014 1:57 p.m. PST

What HistoryPhD said.

Deadone23 Jul 2014 3:37 p.m. PST

I read an interesting book that claimed to show that Bravo two zero book mostly a work of fiction.

Wouldn't be surprised.

screw u24 Jul 2014 1:05 p.m. PST

Its not that this sort of book is getting worse, there were always these sort of crap books around. Guys always won the war singlehanded, firing a machine gun with one hand while they rescued the damsel in distress with the other and carried a puppy and a cigar in their clenched teeth. What happens of course is that the truth seems to stand the test of time better and this sort of Bravo Sierra doesn't last, especially once members of his unit read it. Just ask Jesse Ventura.

Lion in the Stars24 Jul 2014 1:28 p.m. PST

Good point about the Lusty being a flat top and not carrying NGS guns. Even if he was attending a conference to discuss the use of the Escort's NGS, he wouldn't be talking to the Captain. CO of Flat Tops tend to be ex aviators, whereas a PWO Above Water Warfare trained officer would have been planning/negotiating Naval Fires…Maybe to a pongo any fairly senior naval person is the Captain, but these days everyone is pretty Purple savvy – I agree with your reservations…
What's really weird is that 'Captain' has a very specific meaning in navalese, so an actual Captain-rank onboard ship is referred to as 'the Commodore' (or rarely 'Captain Name') even if he's not actually in charge of a squadron. Similarly, an Army/Marine/USAF O3 Captain (equivalent to a Navy Lieutenant) is referred to as 'the Major' by the sailors while onboard ship.

Weasel25 Jul 2014 12:41 p.m. PST

Popular Military history is basically a cess pit. Whether it's ideological chest pounding, political meandering or fake glory hounds, you have to dig through a lot of trash.

Charlie 1225 Jul 2014 5:55 p.m. PST

Too true, Weasel. A bookseller friend calls it 'mil porn', only fit for the dull 15yr old mindset…

Milites25 Jul 2014 6:15 p.m. PST

I also wonder if some of the mistakes are deliberate to catch out people pretending to have served in these units (called Walts by the UK military). I remember McNab book that had a 50mm machine gun on a land rover and other glaring mistakes.

I think there is also huge pressure, exerted by publishers on authors to sex up their memoirs, given the competitive niche they are working in.

tuscaloosa25 Jul 2014 9:37 p.m. PST

Only too true.

I recently read the memoirs of some "special operator", a real hero type, who wrote that while he was halfway through the very difficult selection course, his talents were recognised early, so he was pulled out of the course and considered to have graduated from it. What had clearly happened is that he failed the course, but he wrote it through his viewpoint!

Milites26 Jul 2014 3:34 a.m. PST

That's a new one, I guess failing selection twice for the SAS shows you are twice as good as a normal trooper! It will only get worse as we 'retreat', sorry withdraw from Afghanistan. There will be a whole new raft of, 'Death Patrol, Nightmare Valley and 'Contact, out!' fiction coming our way.

I guess in the 70's there was Sven and a few dodgy merc tales from Darkest Africa, to titillate the teen war porn crowd, but it's just the volume of dross now. Not only that, it's a repetitive tale of relatively small scale fighting, against a mismatched opposition.

Fatman26 Jul 2014 4:33 a.m. PST

"The more exciting a soldiers war stories are the more Bleeped text he is talking." My father, a WW II conscript and 20+ year post war professional, told me that when I was about 18 and I tend to judge books by that.

Fatman

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