"Jonny Quest" Topic

Does anyone have any good suggestions on figures that could pass for the Jonny Quest gang? Thanks guys!

I'm also interested in this!

The Quest gang would be a good subject for a Pulp-era figure set. (Or, given licensing restrictions, a set that could reasonably be used for Dr. Quest, Race Bannon, Jonny, Hadji, Bandit, and perhaps Dr. Zin.

Not to mention that wonderful robot spider! And Jezebel Jade!

I know! I'm at Historicon now, and Bob Murch is supposed to be here, so I think I'll have to mention the idea to him. But in saying that, there has to be something close to the gang out there already, no?

Sorry I do not have an answer, but I swear in the past I saw figures being shown in various pulp posts that would work. I think they are out there.

In the past, Bob has said that JQ is outside the scope of what he wants to do with Pulp Figures. Still, no harm in asking again, and I think his sculpting style fits JQ perfectly.

I'd buy multiple Jonny Quest sets in a heartbeat.

I could almost swear someone has already done a not-JQ and the gang. Maybe the ones that do the not-scooby-do?.

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I could almost swear someone has already done a not-JQ and the gang. Maybe the ones that do the not-scooby-do?.

And while you're at. Someone should do a Spaceghost mini for SuperHero games.

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Guys

Bob is a fan of the Pulp Era, so I doubt that he'll be doing anything like Jonny Quest or Scooby Doo, which are from the 1960's.

I'd jump on the JQ band wagon in a heart beat. Although what I REALLY want is a SPIDER ROBOT miniature, hint hint sculptors.

I loved that show when I was a kid !!!!!!

Pulp is pulp. I certainly don't think because it's from the 60's has any relevance. Just my opinion, but the Jonny Quest world would be an incredible line, and I can't believe that no one has yet to do a facsimile of it.
And a line that honestly couldn't be any more pulp than anything else "pulp" out there.

I have no doubt I'd buy a set of Johnny Quest miniatures.

Kevin White sculpts the not scooby do figures. Maybe contact him at hasslefree miniatures and see about him doing these.

We need the Venture Brothers as well !!!!

Zombiesmith does a set.

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>>Pulp is pulp. I certainly don't think because it's from the 60's has any relevance.<<

>>Pulp is pulp<<

Really? Define "pulp".

I said that Bob was a Pulp *Era* fan. The Pulp Era is when Pulp Magazines were published. Mainly "between the wars" as they were at their peak of popularity after WW I and on the decline after WW II. They gave way to the "slicks" during the mid 1950's.

I have no opinion as to whether Jonny Quest would be a good line or not as I never watched it.

Jonny Quest rocks,first T.V.animated show done at first mainly by comic book artists,.Doug Wildey and Alex Toth,then as animation got .rushed they quit.,.due to artistic differences. But oh yeah,we need the quest bunch ,plus jade the love interest and the robotic spider..I can not believe it lasted only one year.

That's the point. If we take the wiki definition of "pulp" look at all the characters we lose because they weren't created between the wars. I think if we take characters or themes that show the SPIRIT of that period it would be considered "pulp". Is Indiana Jones not considered "pulp"? What about James Bond?

If you were to check out Jonny Quest, I believe you'd agree that it certainly falls into the spirit of the "pulp " genre even though it wasn't created between the wars. Evil scientists, robots, secret agents, monsters, mummies, treasure, traps, the pretty girl, etc.. And again, all from a cartoon!

Johnny Quest ripped off Rick Brant almost totally. I hope you realize that.

Johnny Quest would be awesome. Some of the villains would work in multiple settings too.

>>Pulp is pulp. I certainly don't think because it's from the 60's has any relevance.<<

>>Pulp is pulp<<

Really? Define "pulp".

Ya know….
No one else but you gives a hoot.

I would go ape over Johnny quest figs! Venture brothers too!

Perhaps Johnny vs venture?

I love the musical score for JQ even to this day….

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Or the venture opener

Venture Bros – Opening 1 – YouTube
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Wow, Winston. Honestly, whether that was directed at me or Mr. Shadow, I'm speechless.

Toby Danger and family!

"Let me throw a barrel at it!"

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>>Ya know…. No one else but you gives a hoot.<<

George Orwell called. He wants his characters name back. :-)

>>That's the point. If we take the wiki definition of "pulp" look at all the characters we lose because they weren't created between the wars.<<

Of course there are great adventures and characters before and after the pulp era. But this group was formed for a *specific* era, or else it would simply be called the adventure gaming group. I'm in way *against* Jonny Quest. He's just not from the period. James Bond is a terrific character. I was in love with the novels and films back in the 1960's. I'd like to see another group formed and rules written for the super spy era. But it doesn't make sense to me to have Bond and The Shadow in the same scenario. That would be anachronistic to say the least. And Scooby Doo meets Fu Manchu?? Wouldn't that be ludicrous?

>>Wow, Winston. Honestly, whether that was directed at me or Mr. Shadow, I'm speechless.<<

Don't worry about him. It's nothing. I've seen so many people do the same thing. Don't have a strong argument? Belittle your opponent.

In my previous reply I meant to say that "I am in *no* way against Jonny quest. We now return you to your regular programming. :-)

You are the ONLY ONE on TMP who tries to define ANYTHING with an iron fist. Ridicule is appropriate.

Doo vs Fu would not only be a fun game but would encourage rhyming.
Ludicrous? In your opinion maybe, but you are not the arbiter of what is appropriate in playing with toy soldiers in Pulp games. You may think you are, but…..

To the Scooby Doo point – that was mis-read by The Shadow. The original poster regarding Scooby Doo was referencing Hasslefree Miniatures which made a knock off of the Scooby gang and that perhaps they made a Quest gang. Which unfortunately they don't.

So we'll agree that we both disagree on what defines a pulp era hero!

Though, you're still missing out on never watching Jonny Quest, and I'd highly recommend looking it up.

Haven't people sometimes made reference to "modern pulp" or such? I am not sure there is a separate term for Bond, Jonny quest, etc., when thinking of them in this vein, though I agree that "pulp" is more normally used for the interwar period characters/plots/themes. Is there a better term for our modern spy/espionage/mystery stuff?

Is there a better term for our modern spy/espionage/mystery stuff?

Well, there is a range co-produced by Copplestone and Artizan Designs called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang from the 1960s.

>>you are not the arbiter of what is appropriate in playing with toy soldiers in Pulp games.<<

Correct. I'm not. But you haven't answered the rather simple question. Why do you think that it's called "pulp gaming" and not adventure gaming?

>>So we'll agree that we both disagree on what defines a pulp era hero!<<

I can see that you're being a gentleman about this, and I don't want to challenge you at every turn, but since you used the term "pulp era hero", what is the pulp era, and why is it called the pulp era, instead of the adventure era?

>>though I agree that "pulp" is more normally used for the interwar period characters/plots/themes. Is there a better term for our modern spy/espionage/mystery stuff?<<

We should be able to come up with something. "Super Spy Era" maybe?

Johnny Quest ripped off Rick Brant almost totally. I hope you realize that.

Poor is the pupil who does not surpass his master, poorer is the painting which does not excel the sketch. In that sense, Jonny beats Rick, hands down. (Other than you and me, how many TMPers have even read any Rick Brant?)

Besides, at least The Shadow spells Jonny's name correctly. For shame, Winston the OFM!

The Rick Brant series was superior to the Hardy Boys in every respect, in my opinion, except there weren't enough of them. So there are at least 3 of us who remember.

Winston blames his cell phone's auto-correct. He says he typed it in correctly.

As for Rick Brant, my favorite was "Rick Brant and the Grassy Knoll."

>>you are not the arbiter of what is appropriate in playing with toy soldiers in Pulp games.<<

Correct. I'm not. But you haven't answered the rather simple question. Why do you think that it's called "pulp gaming" and not adventure gaming?

Speaking for both Winston and myself, we both HATE the term "adventure gaming".
That is a term that some lily livered "all things to all men" gutless wonder proposed back in the day when "we" (not me!) were desperately searching for an all inclusive term so as not to use the horrible term WARgaming.
As one commentator said, "It sounds like what Rupert Bear and his chums did.

"Pulp gaming" is anything covered by pulp literature. Note that I on NOT confine that to any specific era. In your attempt to assign the 20s and 30s in your TMP thread, you contradict yourself so many times, I thought you had given up.
To me, "pulp literature" includes not only the content of pulp magazines, but anything that has the attitude.
Pulp was produced for the masses, with no concern for literary quality. The fact that "literature", like Raymond Chandler, slipped through is of no concern.
Sherlock Holmes is pulp.
So is Dumas. Both were mass produced in magazines. Both might be considered literature.
Dracula is pulp.
Conan and Solomon Kane and Cthulhu are pulp.
And Rick Brant and the Hardy Boys and Tom Swift and the Bobsy Twins.
And TV shows that embraced the concept.

It is much easier to include something than to reject it.
Is Dashiell Hammett pulp?
Is Raymond Chandler?
Then why not Sherlock Holmes or Judge Dee?
I don't fall into the trap of trying to define an "era".
You cannot deny that Conan was pulp, so how can you say the Hyborian age was not "pulp era"?

What about "Pulp Fiction"?

Not "Rick Brant Versus the Illuminati"?

My local library only had a half dozen or so of them, mostly the later titles. I should try to track down more of them. My actual favorite was "The Flying Stingaree." UFOs and spies, what's not to love?

>>"Pulp gaming" is anything covered by pulp literature. Note that I on NOT confine that to any specific era. In your attempt to assign the 20s and 30s in your TMP thread,<<

What is "pulp literature", and why is "pulp" used in that description?

Clearly I've bungled myself into past issue's between Shadow and Winston. Full apologies.

For me, John absolutely nailed it. I really think it's about the "spirit" of pulp. And again, that's why I think the Jonny Quest world fits perfectly.

Regardless, I will continue to search out for figures that are close to the Quest gang and have fun playing them with the excellent Pulp Alley rules!

What is "pulp literature", and why is "pulp" used in that description?

As Justice Stewart said in a slightly different context, "I may not be able to define it but I know it when I see it."
I see nothing to be gained by trying to jam pulp into a Procrustean box with a strict definition.

John and Winston

That's an awful lot of words (especially John) to admit that you *know* where the term "pulp" originated, and that you *know* why this group is *specifically* called the pulp gaming group, but that you don't want to admit it. Why don't you both just say that you *know* that pulp gaming refers to a definitive era, but that you just don't *like* it. That's fine. I can dig that.

No, I do NOT *know* any such thing. You seem to think you do, but I/we do not agree with you.

Wait. You're saying that you *don't* know where the term "pulp" originated, and you *don't* know why this group is specifically called the pulp gaming group?

So back to Ivor13's post: Any good proxies for Jonnie Quest?

I think there are a few different lines and scale that would work for Race(15mm Rebel Minis have a hitman or some of the EM4 body guards might work), the others are harder.

In 28mm, Race can be proxied as Redrom notes, although his distinctive shirt and haircut are problematic.

You can proxy a street-urchin Hadji from Eureka's Indian Children set.

Rogue Miniatures does a great Bandit/Bulldog in their Tommy and Winston set.

I haven't found anything for Jonny or Dr. Quest, and I haven't looked for proxies for Zin, Jezebel Jade, Pasha Peddler, etc.

i already made up a JQ league roster for pulp alley but haven't found any figures as a set but there are a couple of singles that come close enough.