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DonaldCox16 Jul 2014 11:36 a.m. PST

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"And this new Thor isn't a temporary female substitute – she's now the one and only Thor, and she is worthy!"

Does anyone think Thor will still be female in, say, 10 years time?

Rather than changing the gender of legacy characters (and a norse god has a long legacy) why can't comics create and develop new female characters? Or just put some effort into developing the female characters they already have?

And why, for Kirby's sake, can they not pull their fingers out and produce a Wonder Woman film or X-Men Origins: Storm?

Thor-as-a-woman may produce some interesting ideas, at least initially. It will get them exposure on news sites. But is it really doing anything for female superheroes in comics in the long run?

15mm and 28mm Fanatik16 Jul 2014 11:38 a.m. PST

To put it another way… TMP link

Coelacanth193816 Jul 2014 11:49 a.m. PST

I like this idea. The new Thor is not about political correctness or feminism or anything like that. It's about a good and decent person being given the power to mete out justice.
if you want to be Superman, you have to be born Superman. If you want to be Batman, you have to be a billionaire.
Now with Thor, you just have to pick up the hammer.

morrigan16 Jul 2014 11:52 a.m. PST

Comics have certainly changed………. :>(

DS615116 Jul 2014 11:55 a.m. PST

I could not disagree more. It [I]is about being PC, but only for the purpose of generating PR. It's a cheap publicity stunt.
No, the female Thor won't last 18 months.

Caesar16 Jul 2014 12:02 p.m. PST

I don't think it is that big of a deal.

sneakgun16 Jul 2014 12:10 p.m. PST

Transgender…Cool !

Tango0116 Jul 2014 12:15 p.m. PST

What happen with his fiancée?

Amicalement
Armand

Mardaddy16 Jul 2014 12:24 p.m. PST

Terrement FTW

Garand16 Jul 2014 12:24 p.m. PST

Personally I think it might have been a bad time to cancel my Thor subscription…

Damon. :)

GarrisonMiniatures16 Jul 2014 12:33 p.m. PST

Well, Marvel can't produce a Wonder Woman film for Kirby's sake or anyone else – Wonder Woman is a DC product.

Mr Elmo16 Jul 2014 12:40 p.m. PST

I can see the comic now…the Old Thor undergoes gender reassignment surgery and Thor becomes…Thor.

Perfect for the modern era.

Chef Lackey Rich Fezian16 Jul 2014 12:51 p.m. PST

Thor's been a frog too, and (as is happening with the current storyline) his hammer and his powers have been given to horseheaded aliens and random construction workers in the past. Odin just plain likes to mess with people's heads, and being his son doesn't make you immune.

This is not a groundbreaking concept, it's a Red Kryptonite story in disguise (ie a radical but transitory change to a character that will be forgotten once the narrative arc ends). But hey, it got the mainstream media to pay attention, briefly.

ming3116 Jul 2014 1:00 p.m. PST

Don't you have to go through lots of counseling and some surgery with hormone treatments first?

15mm and 28mm Fanatik16 Jul 2014 1:10 p.m. PST

The only surprise is that it took so long for a female Thor.

M C MonkeyDew16 Jul 2014 1:11 p.m. PST

If you turn a deity into a superhero in the first place where is the tipping point before you cannot suspend belief?

I agree its a PR stunt but it doesn't bother me any more than any other PR stunt.

I mean its not like they could have just invented a female with Thor like qualities…oh wait…

Dynaman878916 Jul 2014 1:31 p.m. PST

As long as the Doctor stays male I don't give a rip.

The Gray Ghost16 Jul 2014 1:51 p.m. PST

This is why I gave up mainstream comics years ago

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2014 1:57 p.m. PST

Terrement, you are the wind beneath my wings!

And I agree -- this idea is beyond stupid and reeks of PC'ness. Just hand Wonder Woman over to Joss Whedon and you'll have your strong female superhero.

Dark Knights And Bloody Dawns16 Jul 2014 2:24 p.m. PST

How long before Marvel realise the bullet wound to the foot hurts?

Personal logo Dentatus Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian16 Jul 2014 2:36 p.m. PST

Jason Aaron, writer of the new Thor series, said in a statement: "This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is Thor."


Uh… no. No, it ain't.


Whom the Gods destroy, they first make mad.

Chef Lackey Rich Fezian16 Jul 2014 2:37 p.m. PST

How long before Marvel realise the bullet wound to the foot hurts?

Marvel already blew both legs off at the knees back in the 90's when they went exclusive with Heroes' World for distribution. Not that most people remember that grim period in the industry.

Henrix16 Jul 2014 3:24 p.m. PST

I have nothing to add but this:
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CPBelt16 Jul 2014 4:12 p.m. PST

You mean comics are chock full of pop culture gimmicks just to sell issues?

Next thing you'll be telling me is that Superman dies, Batman dies, Ms Marvel is Muslim, Spiderman gets married, Spiderman is Doc Ock and vice versa, Spiderman dies, Speedy has AIDS, ect ect ect.

At least there should be little reading, with the comic being mostly splash pages like most modern comics.

Wait until next year to fish these issues out of the 50cent bins.

Mako1116 Jul 2014 5:35 p.m. PST

So, apparently there are no "worthy" female goddesses to make a movie about, instead?????

Sounds like the writers/directors/etc. need to take a 95% pay cut, due to a lack of mythological awareness, and/or a total lack of creativity.

"The War on Men" continues.

DsGilbert16 Jul 2014 5:45 p.m. PST

Yet Marvel put out the Avengers with one female heroine and she had no super powers except the ability to flirt with men.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2014 5:49 p.m. PST

Heresy!

CPBelt16 Jul 2014 6:34 p.m. PST

she had no super powers except the ability to flirt with men.

Sounds like one of my old girl friends joined the Avengers….

bsrlee16 Jul 2014 6:52 p.m. PST

What part of the original (5th-10th century) Thor being a cross dresser didn't anyone get?

Even the comic books version of his costume is actually female – the two round/oval brooches holding his cape is exclusively female in the Northern European tradition.

Covert Walrus16 Jul 2014 6:52 p.m. PST

Not getting involved.

My policy is to avoid walking into minefields, particularly when I can hear chickens in them . . .

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2014 8:23 p.m. PST

No heresy at all — throughout the ages, Loki has always been able to get Thor into a dress in a flash.

tberry740316 Jul 2014 8:56 p.m. PST

I remember when they sucked all the SuperSoldier serum™ out of Captain America. After all: Drugs are Bad!

nickinsomerset16 Jul 2014 10:51 p.m. PST

Standard modern film where the hero/super soldier/agent is usually a female and the male soldiers/police/agents etc a bunch of loud mouth/inept/cowards!!

Tally Ho!

DsGilbert17 Jul 2014 5:49 a.m. PST

Looks like Marvel is changing Captain America and Iron Man also. Sales must really be down. link

Angel Barracks17 Jul 2014 8:08 a.m. PST

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DsGilbert17 Jul 2014 9:21 a.m. PST

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KTravlos17 Jul 2014 9:31 a.m. PST

Money, slowly destroying your pre-modern prejudices one at the time. Long live Capitalism!

DsGilbert17 Jul 2014 12:26 p.m. PST

What pre-modern prejudices do you speak of?

Mithmee17 Jul 2014 1:29 p.m. PST

The new Thor is not about political correctness or feminism or anything like that

Yes it is along with them killing off Archie.

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Just like the new Ms Marvel and Green Lantern being gay.

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I stop buying comics even before GW ticked me off enough to stop playing 40K and WFB.

Mako1117 Jul 2014 2:10 p.m. PST

Glad to hear about Archie, personally.

Should have done that 40+ years ago.

Now, Veronica on the other hand……..

KTravlos17 Jul 2014 6:45 p.m. PST

The pre-modern prejudice that restricts mythic characters to certain sexes for all future interpretations. Pre-moderns societies get vexed when their myths are interpreted in ways outside the customary.

And I am not even saying I am any better. I got my prejudices. But I am plenty happy the people who want to make a buck are willing to look beyond my own prejudices. Because money has no soul to save, no color, no gender. All it cares about is supply and demand. And for the comic industry giants like DC and Marvel their main target is teens. Has it not ever passed your minds that modern teens do not necessarily think the way some of you do? And that there is a big un-tapped market of female, and yes (less big) transgender teens who have not tapped into the comics industry yet (or are mostly buying alternative stuff like Oni Press or Dark Horse).

So they will lose a number of older fans, many of which may not even be regular buyers. They may even lose some Deleted by Moderator, they may very well offset it with a bigger base.

But hey, if you prefer the Deleted by Moderator explanation, go right ahead.

And the funny thing is that its not like you cannot get more "traditional" socially comics. Deleted by Moderator

Each person is free to hold whatever prejudices they want. As I said I have my own and I am ashamed of most of them, but there you have it. But one is free to call them what they are.

Fabe Mrk 218 Jul 2014 6:35 p.m. PST

Don't really understand why people are making such a big deal over this. As I understand it Thor is not becoming a woman,its more like Thor , for what ever reasons the writers have come up with is unable to wield his hammer Mjolnir so its handed off to a woman who takes on the name Thor to take his place. I wouldn't be surprised if the classic male Thor makes appearances in this new series.

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