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Tango0113 Jul 2014 10:59 p.m. PST

"On the morning of June 18, 1864, Pvt. Payson Wolf trudged through the streets of Petersburg, Va., with other battered and bloodied Union prisoners of war. The captives were herded into an old tobacco barn with hundreds of other bluecoats to await their fate in the hands of Confederate military authorities.

Only hours earlier, Wolf had come out on the wrong end of a rare nighttime assault, which put him and his comrades in an advanced position near the formidable defenses of the Cockade City. They had been attacked by veteran North Carolina troops and compelled to surrender after a brief and brutal fight.

The prisoners were quickly divested of their muskets; one company of Tar Heels jumped at the opportunity to trade their worn weapons for the captured guns. They soon noticed that the wooden musket stocks had been ornately carved with fish, snakes, turtles and other animals – perhaps their first clue that their captives were no ordinary Union soldiers…"
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Davoust14 Jul 2014 3:36 p.m. PST

American Indians fought on both sides with one actually becoming a Brigadier General. Stand Watie was his name. A leader of the Cherokee Nation out west. Brigadier for the CSA.

Hispanics or Latinos also served on both sides. I believe the last units to surrender out west were majority Latinos.
Col.Santos Benavides was the highest ranking Latino in the CSA.

The American War was multi-racial.

The Spanish Guards were part of the Confederate Army. Ok they were part of the Home Guard for Mobile, Alabama.

There is much information out there on Indians, Latinos, Black etc serving on both sides of the war.

Same with the AWI, War of 1812 and the Mex-US War.

Noble Jordan was a drummer in the 7th US Inf. at New Orleans. He as about 12 years old. He served in the 7th in the Mexican war as a cpl. Commanded an irregular cavalry unit in the beginning of the ACW for the Confederacy in the Louisiana theater before advance age forced his retirement.

Noble Jordan was a black man and the unit for the CSA was majority black.

Again, much information out there that bunks so much conventional thinking.

Lucius14 Jul 2014 7:53 p.m. PST

Most Native Americans fought for the Confederacy. A visit to the Confederate cemetary at Vicksburg will show you row after row of them.

From bitter experience, they knew exactly what a promise from the Union was worth. The Confederates promised the Native Americans their own country in the Oklahoma Territory, so it was really a pretty easy decision for them. They had nothing to lose,

Tango0115 Jul 2014 11:29 a.m. PST

Thanks for the info guys.

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP15 Jul 2014 1:35 p.m. PST

A small number of tribes fought for the Union. Airchair General had an article about it some months back.

Davoust15 Jul 2014 2:14 p.m. PST

Know it was not the Sioux. The North fought a war with them in 1862 to 1864. After the war 303 Sioux were to hang. On 38 were. Remains the largest mass hanging in US history.

Gen. John Pope commanded the Union forces. After 1862, Col Sibley commanded mainly Minnesota militia. I think forces from Iowa also participated.

Nice what if or side bar to the ACW.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2014 7:39 a.m. PST

I just looked up the Armchair Gen with the article about Indians in the ACW at the Battle of Honey Springs, 1863. In present day Oklahoma. Also known as the Battle of Elk Springs. The Union had 3 Indian Home Guard Inf Rgts[1st-3rd]. With primarily Creek and Cherokee plus a mix of Osage, Delaware, Kickapoo, Seneca, Quapaw and Shawnee …Even the Rgt of the 1st Kansas Colored, was at the battle, BTW. The Confederates had 1st and 2nd Creek Inf Rgts, plus the 1st Choctaw & Chickasaw Inf Rgt. As well as the 1st and 2nd Cherokee Mtd Rfl Rgts. They also had another interesting unit, the 5th Texas Partisan Rangers … Quite of an ecletic variaty of units …

Tango0116 Jul 2014 11:12 a.m. PST

What an interesting wargame!
Wonder if anyone has played it!.

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