"War over Sudetenland " Topic

So, what if the Czechs resisted?
The "what if" Brigade can switch into action here, of course, but who makes figures suitable for 15mm Czechs?
My friend already has a Flames of War Czech "Panzer Company" but what figures are suitable for infantry or artillerists? And which guns on the market were Czech made in 1938?

Would "Czech" Czech tanks be painted Panzer Gray?

Oh, yes.
Which FoW EW German tanks and guns would NOT be available to the Germans?
Which French and British kit would also NOT be available?

And assuming the Poles want to get involved (on either side) would the Blitzkrieg lists be useable with no modifications?

Finally, does Battlefront have any lists squirreled away, or are there fan lists available?

"Czech" Czech tanks would be painted in their three-colour camouflage of dark green, yellow and dark brown.

And the Czech tanks would be 35s, not the better 38s made famous by their German use, as the latter were just about starting production.

I believe it was S&T that had an issue (with board game) on this topic many years ago.

Rob

For Czech troops I think you could get away with using Poles in the 'new' helmet in 15mm. As for Czech guns I don't know what to suggest. I've been looking into this with very much the same idea for some years. As far as I know, nobody does any Czech guns for WW2 in any scale. For trucks you could use Gaz AAAs. They're ford model A copies. And it seems as though everybody used Fords. Even if they called them Renaults, Fiats or Gaz.

How would France and Britain react since they had given the Sudetenland to Hitler (and without even consulting the Czechs)? They probably would do nothing since the whole idea was to AVOID war.

And assuming the Poles want to get involved (on either side)

Poland would probably make a land-grab all on their own much as they did when the Germans invaded the Czech part of Czechoslovakia in March of 1939.

Skoda supplied much of the Austro-Hungarian artillery for WWI. Many of these guns remained in use with the states (like Czechoslovakia) forms when the empire broke up. The breakup of the empire left Czechoslovakia with the Skoda works, and the Versailles Treaty eliminated Krupp as an artillery exporter for much of the interwar period, so Skoda helped to fill that vacuum. Google "Skoda artillery," and you'll find some things, including this mountain gun: link Much of the Skoda equipment will turn up in the inventories of other countries (the obice da 100/17 modello 14 in Italian service, and sold by the FoW folks in their Italian line, is an example), and you should be able to find the stats on these guns, under the countries that used them, if you poke around in the FoW books.

Grelber

I have 3 boardgames on the conflict. S&T, Command Magazine, & Czechoslovakia Defiant. The last came out in 2012 by Schutze games & should be available. It looks like the best of the 3. Avalanche has a tactical game clled First Axis that has some equip lists.

John Kelly

I have done research on this for a 10mm project and the troops are a little difficult to come by. I imagine they will be as well in 15mm. One thing you could look for is Slovak infantry, as they will have the correct helmet and other equipment. In 10mm Pithead make Slovak infantry, but in 15mm I have no idea. Polish infantry would have a similar helmet, but they use the wrong MGs, so be careful with that. Maybe a bit of bashing could solve that problem.

As for guns and stuff, the British BESA MG was from the Czech ZB-53, so no problem finding those. And of course, the tanks are easy as the Germans took them over.

Artillery wise, you would need a 100mm howitzer, 80mm FG, and 81mm mortar, and a 37mm ATG.

Oh, there could also be some cavalry if you are into horses.

The Czechs fielded what they called Fast Divisions, which would be a pretty sexy way to go. You get tanks and other cool stuff, like the Tatra OA armored car!

I stand corrected as to Skoda gun availability. I'm pleased to do so as I was not happy about what I thought to be the case.
However, there still seems to be a serious gap. I see that neither of their A/T guns is available. This is a shame as not only would they be useful for Mr. Smith's purposes, the Germans used both the 37mm and 47mm A/T guns as ersatz weapons.
Now if only someone would 'set me straight' on that issue…

Oh, and I forgot, the British Bren gun is the Czech light machine gun!

And if you really want to stretch it, the Romanians used a lot of Czech gear, but their helmets are not quite right.

Look at the Irregular Miniatures 'Really useful guns' range. At least 1 of them looks especicially useful:

Gun Type Two E £1.50 GBP

Austrian WW1 8cm fg m5 state/skoda. This is the main field gun of the Austro/Hungarian army in WW1. It is almost identical to the skoda 7.5cm fg m12 which was supplied to china but was also used by the Austro/Hungarian army and later by Czechoslovakia up to WWII. Captured guns used by Italy and Russia.

link

May be others of use.

As of a couple of years ago at least there is a fair amount of information about the German and Czech armies of 1938. I was less successful in finding information about other armies as of October 1938, especially concerning what they actually had mobilized.

Also I wouldn't assume anything about what other nations might or might not have done if the Czechs fought.