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Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Jul 2014 4:10 p.m. PST

Is there a diagram online of what a full battery looked like when deployed (one that includes all the caissons, limbers, wagons, etc.)? I know there's one in an Osprey but mine are all in storage and I really don't want to have to dig through all those boxes until I have to…

Bandit01 Jul 2014 4:47 p.m. PST

Mark,

Any idea which it might be in? I just checked and it isn't in Napoleon's Guns (2): Heavy & Siege Artillery or Napoleonic Artillery.

Cheers,

The Bandit

reynroger01 Jul 2014 4:57 p.m. PST

Yes, Look at page 278 of "The Waterloo Companion" by Mark Adkin (Stackpole Books, 2001). Section 7 is all about the artillery.

jeffreyw301 Jul 2014 4:59 p.m. PST

Although not online, as requested, this has some very nice detail for the Russians:

link

Jcfrog02 Jul 2014 10:25 a.m. PST

read Okunev and Vernon & others, no diagrams but they talk about it. Actually there is no one way but plenty.

goals:
1 ease of way out
2 supply the guns
3 use terrain to protect the horses / material; use depth if needed.
4 make it so your positions are a minimal hindrance to others moving about (also needed for your supports)
5 each nation has its own way reflected by material and org.

if you go on google books you can search for artillerie and get tons of period manuals… but most of the folded maps and sketches are not done properly but you night get lucky. ( mostly German and French)

Brechtel19802 Jul 2014 6:36 p.m. PST

The diagram on page 278 of Adkins' work shows the 'likely layout' of Mercer's RHA troop.

The French employed their artillery companies somewhat differently.

A French artillery company, either foot or horse, had a large number of vehicles, especially ammunition caissons. 12-pounders and howitzers had five caissons each; 6- and 8-pounders three each; 4-pounders two each (additionally, foot gun companies assigned to infantry divisions had four additional caissons for infantry ammunition).

When in the field and in combat, only one ammunition caisson traveled with the gun company. The others were with the trains/parcs in the process of shuttling ammunition forward to their assigned gun companies.

When emplaced, the artillery gun line had 20 yards between pieces, dependant on the terrain, and the limber was close by with the ammunition coffret taken from between the trails of the piece and placed on the limber in action. The prolonge was attached to the (1) trail transom of the piece and (2) to the limber for use. The caissons with the gun company were either placed behind the gun line or to the flanks.

The ready ammunition from the coffret was used to 'feed' the guns in action and that ammunition was replaced from the caisson assigned to each piece.

B

Brechtel19803 Jul 2014 4:47 a.m. PST

EC,

I've looked through the French, British, and Prussian Ospreys on artillery that I have, including the older Artillery Equipments of the Napoleonic Wars and can't find what you're looking for.

If you wish, email me at Boulart198@yahoo.com and I'll scan and send to you some of the original documents that I have that might help you.

I have seen, and cannot remember where, a modern diagram on French deployed artillery, emplaced, but it had rows of caissons in the battery position, and that is incorrect.

B

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Jul 2014 8:44 a.m. PST

Hmmm…maybe I'm remembering a diagram from somewhere else…

Brechtel19803 Jul 2014 10:36 a.m. PST

Paddy Griffith's book on the French artillery from the 70s?

B

jeffreyw319 Jul 2014 10:17 a.m. PST

EC--were you looking for this?
link

Littlearmies21 Jul 2014 2:27 p.m. PST

EC – Franklin's British Napoleonic Field Artillery has three diagrams – one showing a brigade of four long 6pdrs in 1793, one showing a 6pdr RHA troop in 1809, and a foot artillery brigade in 1810. I think I scanned a couple of these for the chap painting 28mm Wellington's British at Waterloo in 1:1 scale. If you want to send me your email I can probably dig them out when I'm at the office tomorrow.

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