"Perrys, Victrix, or Warlord?" Topic

I am going get some 28mm Napoleonic figures to start a Waterloo scenario. I'm going to be the Allies and my buddy the French. WE want to use plastic to save money (we don't have too much) and we want to now which of the following brands Perry, Victrix. or Warlord makes the best. I know this is subjective but any opinions would be welcome. Do they have good army deals? how many figs per box? etc. any info please. Thank You.

J.

J,
In a nut shell for me, I have used all three. All have their quirks about them, but I must highlight how much work do you want to put into building the figures? You have Victrix with multiple options from hell, to Perry, in maybe a head swap and adding a backpack. Since I'm doing figures for a skirmish level game (Sharp Practice), then I like the action, non-uniformed look. I have also interchange arms, head, torsos and legs with all companies mentioned, worked just fine.

For specials go to their web sites.

Good luck!

P.

Perry! Victrix are a lot of work to put together.

Perry for firing line.
Warlord for marching.

Victrix look good painted but a very fiddly. And you'll need at least two boxes to get all the parts.

Perry Brothers. Both for ease of assembly and they are the nicest plastics esthetically. Plus they cover British, French and Prussians for a Waterloo.

Bonjour,

No brainer just go for Perrys unless you're making a small diorama and want to have lots of very different poses.

Also worth noting that it has been said by many here that whilst Perrys are robust other plastic figures won't survive a single battle without lost bayonets etc.

Perry figures are well-proportioned and well posed in contrast to the others who can end up looking like zombies – not that I have anything against Zombies so long as Brad Pitt is around to sort them out! – and/or have hands the size of dinner plates.

Finally, Perrys' mail-order service is FIRST CLASS unlike that of others that I won't name and shame here but only 'cos I'm so nice.

Cheers,

P

Hands down, Perry. Wouldn't even consider the others.

I have all 3 happily marching around the table!

Tally Ho!

I think you can gladly take all three. The earlier Warlord Napoleonics (Prussian Landwehr) were crap, but they have been getting ever better. Their Hannovarians are actually quiet good (except for the large hands and a slight scale creep between the plastic and metal components) and i think those are fairly identical to their Brits.

All that being said, you get the best value for money with Victrix and the least with Warlord (their minis are almost as expensive as metals).

With the Brits you will have about the same amount of assembling to do on the Perrys and on Victrix. Warlord will be far less there.
With the French Warlord and Perry will the least work, but I would take Victrix out of the equation here anyway, since their minis are wearing the Pre-Bardin uniform and would be wrong for Waterloo anyway.
When you want French Guard or British Artillery in Plastic Victrix are your only choices and both are quiet good IMHO.

Cheers,

Burkhard

Perry stuff all day long. You can pick it up cheaper from the discount retailers as well.

I completely disagree about the broken bayonet comment, I have not had a single broken bayonet in two years, so perhaps it's just about how you base or being careless?

Regarding lost bayonets… I have only had a singe one on one Victrix minis and that was me being careless during clean put (cut it in half).

The only plastic bayonet breakages I've experienced are Victrix.

I´ve also had broken bayonets from Perrys (Prussians).

Perrys are the best, Victrix are cost effective on a budget.

You can use Perrys for sum of your light cavalry, you will need to get metal for your heavy cavalry and your staff go Perrys for them.

I focus on the Peninsular War, and a couple years ago got my first set of British Centre Company figures from Victrix. I don't think their 1815 era boxes are any different, except for the Belgic shako.

By buying more sets, I have assembled 32 figures each to depict the 5th Foot (advancing, front rank leveled muskets; second at carry; 9th Foot (firing by file from the centre); 23rd Royal Welch Fusiliers (as for 5th, advancing); 27th Inniskillings (front rank kneeling, on guard, rear standing on guard – this would be completely appropriate for Waterloo figures, as "they died in square!") 45th Nottinghamshire (fighting in "scrambling defense", as on the day before Talavera); 48th Northamptonshire (as 5th) and 88th Connaught Rangers (as 5th).

The 23rd was at Waterloo. So was the 27th. Both in Belgic shako.

The victrix sets are 52 figures: 4 officers; 4 sergeants; 4 drummers; 4 men running; 4 men kneeling; the rest possible to use as defending or advancing. To use all the private men, sergeants and drummers, 1 must be bare-headed, which I don't like. There are a few extra packs, and extra arms with each set.

These figures allow a great variety of poses. I use 4 grenadiers; 4 light company men; and 24 figures representing 8 center companies at 3 each. I use 2 officers in each to carry the colours; 2 sergeants; and 2 drummers. I also scattered an officer or sergeant into some of the flank companies to use them all up.

Happy with Victrix!

GdeP

Have a look here for some comparison pictures. There are Victrix and Warlord if you scroll down…

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Iuse all 3 but Victrix is nr1, not all those marching types, lot more realistic. No problem with bayonets.

I have many sets of all three . Perry is a great start for reasons mentioned above. Warlords new french LATE infantry are good. I would avoid the 1st set of Line infantry. Not enough Elites and I had a tough time with the pom poms breaking off. Also I didn't care for every 4th pack having a string of Garlic hanging from them. Easy enough to carve off but a bit of a pain.
I found the Victrix Middle Guard sets to be versatile, as they come with Old Guard Bearskins And covered shako's. Perry's discounts are also very good. About 10% off { Bulk plastic sets are already discounted} and free overseas shipping on orders over $300 USD US funds.
Caliver books carries all 3 as well, with free international shipping.

Subjective as you say. Perry for me everytime!

Whilst my figures get some hard usage, Victrix bayonets are definitely more prone to snapping off…

You'll have to use the Victrix for your Brit Arty of course, and its a fine product, and hopefully they are bringing out French arty too soon….

Mind you, they've been promising French Dragoons since the old king died….

Warlord plastics are by far the easiest to put together, but unfortunately they mix them with metal figures, which are emphatically NOT easy to assemble, and that pushes the prices up.

Size and scale wise, as said above, all are compatible.

Good luck with the project. Maybe you can get some inspiration from ours:

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What a wonderful discussion and do not play the Napoleonic War. Regardless the information everyone has provided is excellent as I do think of doing this conflict some time way down the road.

No problem with broken bayonets on Victrix here either and my 5th Division has seen plenty of action. Perry and Victrix are both excellent but i guess it all boils down to how much work you want to do before you get the figures to the painting table.

Personally, I would say Perry's.

The scaling is rather nice and you do get a fair amount of variety in a box. I have tried using the Victrix miniatures and whilst you get a lot for your money, they were a bit of a pain to put together. Also, the Perry's sculpting is just that bit better personally.

My main issue with the Warlord Games one is that as I tend to play skirmish games rather than large battles, having all of your men in a march attack pose gets a bit dull on the battlefield.

I have and like the Victrix figures – but then I'm building them for skirmish games, where varied poses are an asset. If I started again I would consider the Warlord figures but am put off by the lack of plastic command miniatures.

I agree perry are best and easiest/quickest to assemble :) only problem is the french are all in march attack. Their army deals are good value but if you want smaller numbers you can get discounted boxes I use wargames emporium very good price and excellent service.
Victrix are good and they do great deals if buying in bulk but they take a long time to put together and can be tricky to get off the sprue without breakages and ranking up can be tricky with some of the poses.
Warlord are too expensive for what you get but their later boxes are very nice models! So for variation in units they're nice hope this helps :)

Go for a mix of both, they do work well together, i must have painted 100's of them for customers, victrix do take more time to build but are well worth it.
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Victrix without a doubt, if you don't want your figures to look like statues.