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How do baccus compare with other 6mm figures will they mix with other manufactures?

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Not sure that they do WW2 stuff though you might have more luck posting on the relevant boards.

Baccus don't have a WW2 range at the moment. Choice is probably Adler, GHQ or Heroics and Ros. There is a site that compares different ranges.

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I have ACW and Napoleonics. I think Baccus are OK alongside Adler ACW, but not in same units. They are significantly bigger, in all dimensions, than my Heroics and Ros figures. If I was starting again in ACW I would probably go for the Adler figures, in spite of their big heads! I think they have a little more detail than the Baccus and take my painting technique well. (black undercoat, drybrushing white, then "stain" the white with quite dilute acrylic. Finish with Magic Wash.) having said that, Baccus are pretty good figures and offer a great range.

Baccus won't mix with Heroics and Ros which are 5mm but you can mix them with Adler. Adler and Baccus both suffer from the large head syndrome which really doesn't subtract from their aesthetic appeal.
I would like Baccus to make more of their figures in March attack weapon at 45degrees as this is my favourite pose. Adler do all their figures in this pose.
If I was to to solely do either Napoleonic or ACW I would go for Adler as their range is superb and has the edge on Baccus but their ordering system leaves a lot to be desired in comparison with Baccus which is so much better.
If you are referring to WW2 then Heriocs and Ros and GHQ are compatible and the best range.

Baccus are working on a WW2 range at the moment. There is no release date yet, though.

Baccus is putting together a line of WW2 vehicles, to be supplemented by figures for the Normandy fighting in the first instance. The first phase of the project has seen some very nice 3d printed examples of various tanks, tank destroyers, etc. Definitely larger than Heroics and Ros but would go well with Adler as suggested above. I am not sure how much further the project has gotten – my main focus of interest is WW1 and the Baccus line for this period is a very nice addition to the market. If the WW2 figures are similar then worth the wait…

Robert

I spoke to Baccus at Salute, they're focussing on the WW1 line at the moment but WW2 is coming. They had some 3D printed WW2 tanks at Joy of Six in Sheffield last year, I'd be surprised if there isn't some news at the same event next month.

For the WW2 Baccus minis, they will not work with 6mm unless the preview minis are going to be shrunk down. Those who saw them said they were more like 10/12mm size.

Baccus tend to be around 8mm tall.

I think i saw somewhere that the tanks will be sized for the infantry and may be approx 1/200

The idea that Baccus figures are 'really 8mm'has been doing the rounds nearly as long as the myth that Earth is flat. We have always measured 6mm foot to eye.

Our vehicles and equipment will be scaled to match our figures and to claim that they will be nearer 10mm or 1/200 are, quite frankly, ridiculous.

To get an idea what to expect check out our new Great War releases. We will shortly be adding some artillery pieces to this range.

What I can tell you is that you can look forward to great detailing and practical posing along with our usual approach to comprehensive coverage.

Baccus ww2 will be great to have more figures do you plan to produce a Russian range as well very much looking forward to WW2 range release

Peter, I love your miniatures. In fact, I painted some an hour ago.
To reinforce my statement, I just measured both your old and new Republican Roman hastati/princepes. Both look to be 9mm from foot to top of helmet.

Like the man said, "We have always measured 6mm foot to eye"

Like the man said, "We have always measured 6mm foot to eye"

If this is true of the actual castings (in fact rather than in theory), then Baccus infantry would be slightly large at 1/275 scale. That is equivalent to an army of 6-foot tall guys.

IMHO, Heroics and Ros are closer to being in scale with typical WWII or Modern 1/285 or 1/300 microarmor. This is evident if you put the infantry next to the tanks.

Mark

Sorry Baccus, I disagree, unless you shrunk your figures.

I have some Napoleonic Prussians from about 10 years ago, and they are significantly larger than the other 6mm I have. They are lovely figures, but I measured them – 8mm. They are giants next to the others.

Leaving aside my thoughts on 'measure to eye', in 6mm it makes virtually no difference. I am 175cm, of which 12cm is eye to crown – 7%. That is less than 1/2mm. (0.4mm to be precise)

A small point. No population has ever been measured as averaging six foot; somewhere between five foot three and five foot nine would be more realistic.

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I would be interested in the logic of using the eye but I can see the advantage of avoiding helmet size differences. I should have thought measuring 5.5mm rather than 6mm would be more accurate. As is it seems to suggest 1/273 or a bit bigger.

[A post in another thread … mostly duplicated here as it seemed appropriate to the topic.]

While I do understand that different manufacturers make figures of different sizes, I think that gamers (and even collectors) do themselves a disservice by making too much of this issue.

I have used infantry figures from several manufacturers. As others have stated, I find that the H&R figures are in many cases the best. Probably truest (and most consistent) in scale, and more importantly to me available in a good mix of figures and poses for those like me who put together units at 1-to-1 unit scale.

But I must confess that I just love the detail of the GHQ individual infantry figures. I have read comments from others indicating that some GHQ figure sets really are out-sized. The US WW2 Paras and Vietnam figures seem to have gone over the line in over-sizing. But I have never seen any of those figures first-hand, so my opinion on those is second-hand at best.

And while I do not much care for the large head syndrome of Adler figures, I really appreciate the variety of figures and poses that only Adler seems to make. So they too are present in my collection.

I also have some Scotia figures. Again here I appreciate some of the figures and poses that only Scotia seems to make. But in this case, there really are some figures that are just too big to use.

I look forward to figures from Baccus. More choices? Yep, I'm in favor!

But it seems my tolerance on this issue runs far beyond many others on the various fora. And I often wonder at that.

Here you see a variety of figures mixed and matched on the same bases. My Romanian artillery crews are made of figures from both H&R and GHQ. The Guns are GHQ. The HQ stand in the back even adds a Scotia kneeling radio operator (from their WW2 French set), a figure I can't find from other manufacturers.

Do they really look so badly matched that you wouldn't want them in your collection? On your gaming table?

I have read from others how GHQ figures are too big, and how some of the GHQ figures like artillery crew or vehicle crew are more appropriately scaled.

There is an example of how some figures compare. From left-to-right the figures come from: GHQ Romanian Individual Infantry, GHQ Artillery Crew (US or Soviet … same figures), GHQ US Armored Infantry (crew figures for half-tracks), H&R Russian Artillery Crew.

Yes they are not all identical in size. But I find them all acceptable, and mix and match without concern.

We may lament the differences in figure size, but let us remember that real people come in different sizes, too. Here you see notable TMP poster Mk 1, who is of known measure (5 foot 11 inches from ground to eye when wearing hiking boots) with a couple of fellows, Steve Zaloga and Michael Green, who also like to look at tanks (and write books and stuff like that) but are of un-measured height. We are different in size and shape, and when you put us next to another manufacturer's vehicle model (like the 1-to-1 scale Panther in the background) you can see how it highlights the differences. Some figures reach the top of the hull, others do not. But still, it is a reasonably realistic portrayal, don't you think?

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Mark 1:

I respect your preferences.

However, people are always posting to point out the detail advantages of Baccus, Adler, and GHQ infantry. To make for a level playing field, I therefore feel that it is important to mention their over-scale issues relative to the commonly used micro-scale vehicle lines. In this regard, Heroics and Ros are more to scale. To some of us, this is noticable.

Then once the above has been clarified, each of us can buy what best suits our needs.

Mark H.