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passiveaggressive25 Jun 2014 7:03 a.m. PST

Is it since the ignore feature was out in?

John the OFM25 Jun 2014 7:06 a.m. PST

I was locked out twice in the last 5 minutes from starting a new thread/topic.
That is why you don't see it. grin

Abwehrschlacht25 Jun 2014 7:08 a.m. PST

It was struggling this morning, I had to start a new thread no less than three times..

passiveaggressive25 Jun 2014 7:08 a.m. PST

Oh I see you… I don't want to miss our on any views really.

Getting rid of tangospam has just transformed the front page though.

fairoaks02425 Jun 2014 7:27 a.m. PST

Has seemed normal speed here

Regards

Jim

MajorB25 Jun 2014 7:58 a.m. PST

Seems fine to me.

Clark18225 Jun 2014 10:11 a.m. PST

no problems for me.

I really enjoy the front page with the ignore option.

captainquirk25 Jun 2014 10:16 a.m. PST

No problems, running at perfectly normal speed.

Oh Bugger25 Jun 2014 10:36 a.m. PST

Doing fine here.

Cerdic25 Jun 2014 12:10 p.m. PST

Interesting thing with the 'lockout' feature. I've just replied to two threads and got the lockout message both times. On both threads the reply number after the thread title on the main page has not changed to include my post. When I click the thread I can still see my post. I just wonder whether anyone else can see it?

fox news tea party25 Jun 2014 12:17 p.m. PST

Speed seems fine, the odd lockout message.

MajorB25 Jun 2014 12:57 p.m. PST

When I click the thread I can still see my post. I just wonder whether anyone else can see it?

If you can see it, then everyone else can see it. It's just the post count that hasn't updated.

EDIT: and I got a "lockfile" when posting this!!

Tango0125 Jun 2014 12:57 p.m. PST

Really slow is putting it mildly! (smile).
To post is a nightmare!.

Amicalement
Armand

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2014 2:00 p.m. PST

Not a bit slow – normal to me

Martin Rapier25 Jun 2014 11:12 p.m. PST

Very variable, slow read speeds such that I can see the screen painting, lots of lockfile errors. But sometimes OK.

Again, been like this since ignore came back, which may or may not be related.

MajorB26 Jun 2014 2:02 a.m. PST

Again, been like this since ignore came back, which may or may not be related.

It was just the same before.

MajorB26 Jun 2014 2:06 a.m. PST

It's probably worth bearing in mind that slow response speeds are far more likely to do with the available bandwidth between the user and the server that runs TMP than the load on the server itself. For instance, Armand is reporting really slow response but he is in Argentina and I suspect he is not using a fast network connection. OTOH, I have a 20Mb connection at home and a fast connection at work and I don't notice any lack of response.

The "lockfile" errors though are to do with load on the server. They are caused by a "race condition" in the database access.

TelesticWarrior26 Jun 2014 2:21 a.m. PST

Very, very slow today.
My posts are getting locked out and some of them are not appearing at all. And guess what, I don't live in "Argentina", I am posting from England from a great connection. it has been this way since Ignore was turned back on.

Forgive me if I don't pay much attention to the excuses of MajorB and his sock puppet accounts.

I had a feeling this would happen; the intolerance and mean-spiritedness of a very small minority leading to a worse site for the vast majority of us. I hope you are happy.

Pete Melvin26 Jun 2014 2:33 a.m. PST

Fine here. Terrible computer, slow connection, no problems.

rtc10526 Jun 2014 6:15 a.m. PST

I'm in England; I'm not a MajorB sockpuppet and my connections are fine, same as ever and no delay at all. I am also very pleased with the ignore function which means I don't have to put up with the spamming, the histrionics and the whining from the anti-ignore faction. They must be getting desperate if they have to resort to claiming the ignore function is causing technical difficulties.

Princeps26 Jun 2014 6:55 a.m. PST

I'm not noticing any difference to TMP.

Great War Ace26 Jun 2014 7:56 a.m. PST

No difference, which is to say, four out of five times posting or changing pages everything clicks along okeedokee, one out of five times it hangs or give me a "page cannot be displayed" or "lockfile/timeout" result. I just back up and try again, usually without any trouble….

Great War Ace26 Jun 2014 7:58 a.m. PST

"Duplicate message."

No difference, which is to say, four out of five times posting or changing pages everything clicks along okeedokee, one out of five times it hangs or give me a "page cannot be displayed" or "lockfile/timeout" result. I just back up and try again, usually without any trouble….

Martin Rapier26 Jun 2014 8:54 a.m. PST

"I'm not noticing any difference to TMP."

Well I am, on a fast and blisteringly fast connections respectively.

It looks like the screen paint thing may be Chrome specific.

It is however time-coincident with the re-enabling of the ignore function, and as I said, they may or may not be related. Correlation does not equate causation. Could be something which google have changed instead.

"They must be getting desperate if they have to resort to claiming the ignore function is causing technical difficulties."

I couldn't give two hoots one way or another about the ignore function as I've got my 400 post front page, but I do if it breaks the site.

Angel Barracks26 Jun 2014 11:04 a.m. PST

Slow…

Robert Kennedy26 Jun 2014 12:24 p.m. PST

No problem or difference for me either.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2014 1:20 p.m. PST

Its fine for me in England too!

CommanderCarnage26 Jun 2014 1:35 p.m. PST

No problem here.

MajorB26 Jun 2014 2:58 p.m. PST

OK, so some people are experiencing slow response and others are not. So that means it's not the server and/or the Ignore function – if it was, everyone would be experiencing the same symptoms. And it doesn't appear to be related to the speed of your connection (as I first thought). As Martin Rapier suggests it might be related to what browser you are using. I am using Firefox and am having no problems. Is this true for others?

Robert Kennedy26 Jun 2014 3:39 p.m. PST

Firefox for me too.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Jun 2014 4:58 p.m. PST

No speed problems here (IE, Chrome, and handmade under Unix), but …

OK, so some people are experiencing slow response and others are not. So that means it's not the server and/or the Ignore function – if it was, everyone would be experiencing the same symptoms.

That's not even close to how widely networked computer systems behave.

MajorB27 Jun 2014 2:01 a.m. PST

That's not even close to how widely networked computer systems behave.

Could you expand on that? It might help to identify the problem that some people are experiencing here on TMP.

EricThe Shed27 Jun 2014 2:18 p.m. PST

I tried posting this morning and got locked out when trying to post the message on other threads…appened twice this week

14Bore27 Jun 2014 3:26 p.m. PST

no problems for me.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Jun 2014 4:34 a.m. PST

Could you expand on that? It might help to identify the problem that some people are experiencing here on TMP.

Sure, the general way people connect over a wide area network like the way most of us likely get to TMP (through multiple servers at various locations over paths that change over time – even during one "session" on the site) is not really amenable to single point variance analysis.

The cause is likely the culmination of several factors, and depending on the context of your connection(s) to TMP, and each factor would have different relative impact for several groups of cases.

The best thing you can do about something like this is ask "is this persistent or just an occasional annoyance"?

If it is persistent, do you have an option to try a different:

- time of day
- machine
- browser
- ISP

Those being the easiest things for most people to change on their own.

The key thing is to realize that because swinging a dead cat over your head at midnight in the graveyard increases the performance of the OFM's connection to TMP, YMMV.

It would take a lot of data over a long time to suss out the different effects to optimize connections. Even more to reasonably characterize the impact of something like the Ignore function.

Also, have you tried turning it off and back on again?
:)

Tango0128 Jun 2014 11:27 a.m. PST

Many thanks for your explanations etotheipi.

Amicalement
Armand

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