"15mm Not-Stormtroopers." Topic

I have posted some pictures of some 15mm Figures who look a little like Star Wars Stormtroopers, well, they look enough like them for me anyway. Purists may not agree, but see what you think here:

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Thanks for looking!

Maybe not the Starwars version. But they look pretty 'stormy' to me…

close enough :-P nice :-)

Cheers guys, I think they will look fine on the table at a distance!

Nice. I just want to say on behalf of Armies Army; the people that make those figures, they are not meant to be Stormtroopers as he hates IP theft.

They look more than good enough to me, i've had a sneak peak at a few or the new "Unknown" miniatures not yet in production and i think you will approve of them. Are you planning on fielding any AT-ST's or heavy portable blasters? If your looking for Endor Rebels then the Ionage "1st Muster patrol" figures would be a good choice they even have peaked caps and backpacks with blanket rolls and for jet bikes how about 15mm uk "Cultist speeders" but with another rider. :)
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They look good! 15mm is hard to see in skirmish type games so these will fit the bill nicely!

Thanks guys!

Ha ha, AB, of course, IP theft is a terrible thing. These are definitely NOT Stormtroopers, I just happened to paint them white… :)

Avamango, I have an old ATST model, a plastic one, which may fit in well with them. At the moment I have no idea how to get hold of other Star Wars similar products. Any ideas? I have just bought a bunch of the GZG Colonial Defence Forces, as they look like the Endor Rebels and starship troops!

Why dont you just buy 15mm Stormtroopers instead?

Grimm

Very nicely done! I had thought of them as an imperial empire, however never as storm troopers. Good call though they look very nice. As scams go hinted, I've a bunch more coming out soon. HQ, assault troops, light support weapons, heavy weapons and a 'skimmer':)
Hoping to have then ready along with my new shop over the next month. Quite a bunch of new stuff in fact:)

I like them. However can they kill Ewoks? I hate Ewoks.

Ewoks? black hats tolero make good stand ins.

blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/product_info.php?products_id=1895&osCsid=733e83c57a1fc7222696254c5a9d77e6

Grimm, if you could direct me to someone who makes proper 15mm Stormtroopers, then I will buy them…

Thanks Armiesarmy, I look forward to the new releases, if you could let me have a link to the new shop, I'd be grateful!

I think everyone except George Lucas hates Ewoks…

I don't imagine any wargames firm has the licence to produce Star Wars merchandise do they?
Not going to be cheap…

I have heard of certain fellows who sometimes sell very close Stormtrooper type figures, but I don't think they're currently available. Good but not exact proxies are more fun anyway IMO.. This one looks great!

Those Tolero look just the part! Thanks.

I am trying to resist the urge to buy some and go Ewok slaying.

I think I am going to have to bite. Anti insurgency troopers in camp armour fighting those horrible little furrballs sounds irresistible!

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yes, Ewoks, the real enemy of all things decent, nice stormtroopers, I converted a few a while ago, with GZG NI troops with 1/76 stoormtrooper heads, they turned out great.

Hey AB, email me at my handle AT a O L.
Angel, licenses aren't needed.
And in 15mm what is "not going to be cheap" to you?
No Such, i know two sources. One is not producing them right now. The other still is.

Grimm

I think AB is trying to point out that neither him or myself like the issues around ''not' troops. The best example I can say is..what if I come up with a "not" federal army from khurasan ( I picked a very popular army here) that would have a minor change and cheaper? How would everyone feel?
Another would be a cheap judge dread? Mongoose would be chuffed I bet.

Taking a replacement line and creating your own spin is much more rewarding I think:)

e-mail sent.

Michael.

Everyone that set an email you all got a response back. :-)

Grimm

what if I come up with a "not" federal army from khurasan ( I picked a very popular army here) that would have a minor change and cheaper? How would everyone feel?

You'd both do excellent business as your customers flock to Khurasan for more pose and weapon variety and Khurasan's customers patronize your line for the same reason ;-D

Abwehrschlacht, those figures look very nice, and suitably imposing!

Nice work, Abwehrschlacht.

You could always sculpt your own storm-trooper heads and resin cast them for swaps. Good project to learn to push putty around and cast parts.

Purists may not agree

The Purists can go themselves with a rusty blaster. ;)

These guys look great and your paint job definitely makes them look the part.

-Will

Anything using 'Star Wars' is likely to get a C&D letter – they are pretty hot on protecting IP as they make a LOT of money off merchandising, probably more than the films made.

If you wanted to tag on the Star Wars name then you are looking at a licence. How cheap? Well at least several thousand dollars – enough to make it non viable for the retail price of 15mm figures.

'Not' items are always dubious. He appears to have taken some other figure here and painted it white (which makes it look a bit like a stormtrooper) rather than produced a figure of stormtrooper and called it something different in an attempt to get around 20thC/Lucas IP issues. But produce a copy of a 15mm stormtrooper and try and call it something else? Well… expect to see that letter, even after the uK result of the Ainsworth case… ;-)

I'd just like to state for the record, these are not sold as Stormtroopers, they just look a little like them. I painted them to make look more like a Stormtrooper, but that was my choice as a customer and Black Hat have no responsibility about what I do with them after they leave their hands, so any IP infringement is mine and mine alone. But I am sure Lucasfilm don't have white armour paint jobs in their list of IP infringements, so I'm guessing I'm safe… For now.

Thanks for the positive remarks chaps, I may have a look into sculpting, it's something I'd not really considered before!

these are not sold as Stormtroopers… I painted them to make look more like a Stormtrooper

I know, and that's not an issue at all and didn't mean to imply that you were doing anything wrong, or indeed Black Hat. Just picking up on some of the IP questions that were starting to arise. :-)

I know Geoff, I was just covering my arse! :-)

You can do that bit on your own…

How did we get on to arses from storm troopers?

I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere…

Somewhere very deep……:)

Why would anyone want Stormtroopers anyway? After Kenobi pointed out that "only Imperial troops are this precise" they proceeded to fail to hit the proverbial barn door on every occasion and a legion of the best stormtroopers got beaten up by a bunch of overgrown teddybears. I too hate Ewoks!!

Why someone would want Stormtroopers?

You have to have large amounts of something to shoot at!

"After Kenobi pointed out that "only Imperial troops are this precise" they proceeded to fail to hit the proverbial barn door on every occasion"

Failed to kill the escaping Rebel prisoners who had a tracking device planted on their ship? That plan came pretty freaking close to working out _quite_ well.

Just saying.

After Kenobi pointed out that "only Imperial troops are this precise" they proceeded to fail to hit the proverbial barn door on every occasion

They seemed to do a reasonable job of hitting targets when boarding Leia's consular ship and on Hoth. Their performance against the Ewoks, admittedly, is pretty difficult to explain.

I have been trying to find these fellows on Armies Armies website. Where would they be? Or are they not doing them anymore?
Also, weren't they the company who bought the 15mm Teledos (Not-Ewoks) from Black Hat?

In April Armies Army sold their existing infantry lines to Brigade Models. I'm not sure whether they've released the Enemy Unknown line yet.
They did buy some models from Black Hat, yes. I assume they went too.

I'm pretty sure that Brigade models have started selling the ex Armies Army Enemy Unknown range of troops, they also picked up the (Not-Ewoks) from Black Hat models but they are not in production just yet but if the demand is there I'm sure that Brigade would speed them up. :) zac

Anyone in states covering Brigade Models?

Yep
all these items were taken by Brigade :)

I've just got the insurgents now :)

Anyone in states covering Brigade Models?

I'm sure there is but I don't remember who they are.

For me with the not figures it is if the IP was never going to enter into the 15mm arena, then the makers are not really taking much from them.

The most they could charge is like 25 cents a fig, which is not worth the money to make the contract.

Also these IP s have taken a large amount from others and never paid them for it.

So if I did find some nice storm troopers in 15, I would just end up buying more toys from official lines for support, they will still get money from that.

If I do not have the Infantry, would not buy the toys.

That said would really like a set of clone war heads of the various types for an army.

Scale Creep Miniatures carries Brigade Models:

scalecreep.com/catalog

And Mr. Extra Crispy Himself just announced a Brigade Models restock IIRC….

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
metal-express.net

Thanks Leland,

Will see if I can get them to order some buildings in a few months as well.