| Bandit | 03 Jun 2014 8:31 p.m. PST |
I am certain they are by Old Glory 15s (aka 19th Century Miniatures) but I am not certain just what they are. Previous owner had started painting many of them with white coats and gray overalls making me think they were Austrian dragoons. link Cheers, The Bandit |
| JonFreitag | 03 Jun 2014 9:14 p.m. PST |
Definitely look like Old Glory but not Austrian. Have you considered Prussian dragoons? |
| Bandit | 03 Jun 2014 9:29 p.m. PST |
I had not. Flipping through Elting makes me wonder if they could be Portuguese Dragoons… (Plate 5 of Volume 4). Prussian Cuirassiers (late war) seem to make sense too. Prussian dragoons (late war) wore shakos I believe. Cheers, The Bandit |
| Sparta | 03 Jun 2014 9:36 p.m. PST |
I definately would say prussian cuirassiers from the 1813 period, where they did not have cuirass but wore the litewka coat. |
| Bandit | 03 Jun 2014 10:20 p.m. PST |
Well, it sounds settled, they are definitely Prussian Cuirassiers (late war), now onto the next question… Do they appear to be modeled in full dress or campaign dress… i.e. should I be painting these coats white or a very dark blue? Cheers, The Bandit |
| Glengarry5 | 03 Jun 2014 10:57 p.m. PST |
If it's a full skirted tunic it's a litkwa so it would be dark blue. A coat with turnbacks would be white (parade) or dark blue(campaign). |
| Sparta | 04 Jun 2014 3:09 a.m. PST |
Agree with Glengarry – prussian blue (whatever that is) |
| summerfield | 04 Jun 2014 4:00 a.m. PST |
They are Prussian Cuirassier in dark blue Litewka
Stephen |
| ThePeninsularWarin15mm | 04 Jun 2014 5:39 a.m. PST |
Looks like a very well sculpted figure, hopefully you get them painted in a full unit. On another post, you mentioned about seeing if you could find that female hussar. Any luck? |
| dibble | 04 Jun 2014 5:54 a.m. PST |
I reckon they may be Belgian-Dutch Carabiniers. Paul :) |
| Bandit | 04 Jun 2014 6:34 a.m. PST |
ThePeninsularWarin15mm, I completely screwed that up – Yes I have that figure and a couple others you may care about, drop me a line at public@falcontechnologies.org and I can even toss you a couple photos if you want. Got them out of the package sitting in front of me presently. Cheers, The Bandit |
| Bandit | 04 Jun 2014 6:48 a.m. PST |
Everyone, So the coats do appear to have tails in the back and turn backs. Seems I could choose either though I suspect it unlikely they ever wore a parade jacket in battle. ThePeninsularWarin15mm, hopefully you get them painted in a full unit. Yeah I think I actually have too many. I've got 29 of them in front of me plus another ~30 unprimed in a bag. There were four units of them circa 1813 of four squadrons each. I'm doing 1 stand = 1-4 squadrons (depending on strength, typically 2-3 squadrons to a stand representing a "squadron group") with 3-5x 15mm figures to a stand. So to do all four at full strength (they were something like ~160 men per squadron in theory) I'd only need about 32 figures… So I'll definitely be able to paint up several units without issue. Cheers, The Bandit |
| ThePeninsularWarin15mm | 04 Jun 2014 10:24 a.m. PST |
Bandit, Thanks and I've sent you an email. As for the Prussians, I have some Prussian kuirrasiers at home and I'll check to see how their coats appear and the helmet out. The unit I have is the Brandenburg regiment and I believe they're wearing a yellowish coat without the brest plates. You're probably right that parade dress would be wrong, however if soldiers had the time, they might adorn their best gear. This of course assumes they brought it in the field, which is debatable. |
| traveller | 04 Jun 2014 11:39 a.m. PST |
Hate to do this, but they could be Wurttemburg Jager Cavalry.
They had that sausage on their helmets. All you need is another choice. Take a look here and see if they match.
I still feel they are Prussians, but you have the figures, so are better able to see the comparison. |
| Bandit | 04 Jun 2014 11:44 a.m. PST |
traveller, No worries, I knew what I was getting into :-p I was able to rule out Württemberg cavalry in two ways, one the figures don't have a plastron on their jacket that I can make out and two, I have some known-to-be Württemberg cavalry from OG15s and they are produced in a very different pose with different features exemplified. Also, there are some other minor differences, no shoulder epaulets only straps… Cheers, The Bandit |
| 14Bore | 04 Jun 2014 3:51 p.m. PST |
A vote that they are Prussian Cuirassiers. |
 deadhead  | 05 Jun 2014 1:20 p.m. PST |
Galway Cuirassiers d'Elite from Napoleonic Wars. Rarely seen or recorded by their contemporaries, but surely Perrys will do them next. I believe they only wore the back plate though, partly as the German regiments had all grabbed the front ones, partly because it made more sense in a retreat. |
| traveller | 06 Jun 2014 3:19 p.m. PST |
Glad to hear you could rule out the Wurttembegers. "I have some known-to-be Württemberg cavalry from OG15s and they are produced in a very different pose with different features exemplified." I vote for the Prussians with a blue coat, as if my vote had any weight to it. My Prussian Cuirassiers are Mnifigs, so I have no Old Glory to compare them to. I'm sure, however you go, they will look great on the battlefield and serve you well. Traveller |
| seneffe | 07 Jun 2014 2:18 a.m. PST |
Coat style. The two rows of buttons and no lapels means it is very likely to be Russian or post 1806 Prussian. But Baden Dragoons and Garde du Corps also wore this style of coat and a not dissimilar helmet. |
| tshryock | 07 Jun 2014 8:27 a.m. PST |
Bandit -- I have some Old Glory 15mm Prussian cuirassiers. I've posted the photos on my blog for reference. link |
| Testiculies | 23 Jun 2014 11:20 a.m. PST |
Both the op and tshryock figs look like Russian dragoons. |
| Bandit | 23 Jun 2014 11:40 a.m. PST |
They are actually Prussian cuirassiers it turns out. I have Russian dragoons of the same make to compare them with. I have them painted up now, I'll have to post some photos so people can see how they turned out. Cheers, The Bandit |
