"a few years ago 15 or 16 i heard some strange info!" Topic

A village seems to be in war with napoleon they have not got the chance to make peace yet! True or fake? best to you al grts serge joe

What village?

Yet = when? Now in the 20th or 21st century?

Post 1815 no one can make peace with Napoleon, he didn't command a government, unless we're talking about something specific to St. Helena.

Cheers,

The Bandit

There was an odd village that was technically still in the Crimean War with Russia. I think it was because they had some obscure law were they wrote their own foreign treaties. Sorry I can't remember more.

@Battle Phlox

You are probably thinking of the town of Berwick, nominally on the border of Scotland and England. The story goes something like England, Scotland and Berwick declared war but only England and Scotland declared peace.

You maybe referring to the story of the town of Berwick upon Tweed that was allegedly still at war with Russia. The town used to change hands so often that it was often mentioned on treaties and documents by name along with England and Scotland.

The story goes it was named this way in the declaration of the Crimean War but was not mentioned in the treaty of Paris at the close of the war- technically making it still at war with Russia.

However this was investigated by the BBC in the '70s and found to be a myth as the town had not been mentioned on the declaration of war.

Although the mayor had already played host to Soviet dignatories for a peace ceremony!

Well done Jim I should have written less!

There was the 335 years war between the Netherlands and the Isles of Scilly. Peace wasn't officially declared until 1986. Happily there were no casualties.
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@bc1745

Perhaps I should have written more but am stuck in Florida with only a Kindle.

Are you sure they really aren't Burgundian?

Floreat, Burgundia!

I'm lost here … are we saying that the Duchy of Burgundy is still at war with Napoleon, Russia or the Scilly Isles?

We'd need some figure ranges – Marines mostly I suppose and some really broad rules that could span quite a period of warfare?

Probably the villlage of Asterix?

yep ,
Asterix is in spain? since when?
The info i got the person who told me this story passed away the name of the vilage can not remember fact is some cities had their own saying about war or peace? best to you b.t.w. find me an answer No stuppid comments some times i question your inteligince all serge joe gents

Not with napoleon b in person just france in that era best to you all greetings serge joe

Not with napoleon b in person just france in that era

To a degree I would argue that a war ends when the government running the war is deposed or otherwise replaced and neither party (the new government or the other country) actively maintains hostilities.

Cheers,

The Bandit

where did you say it was in Spain?

A bit off topic but the Spanish exclave of Llivia is an interesting case study … The result of an ambiguously worded treaty in 1659.

The ww1 ended in an armstice it could start again? greetings serge joe

It already did, it's called WW2.

Do not think so ww2 ended in a german surrender? sege joe

The ww1 ended in an armstice it could start again?

It already did, it's called WW2.

Do not think so ww2 ended in a german surrender?

Correct, WW2 is unlikely to restart, WWI did restart in the form of WW2, that was what you asked.

Cheers,

The Bandit

WW2 certainly did end in an unconditional surrender, by every Axis Power…even by the Japanese Empire, although they were assured the Emperor's position was secure.

Entering the war was less obvious……I once on this forum suggested USA never did declare war on Germany or Italy in WW2, the reverse applied, but was soon put right in a very detailed reply…..USA did respond to say OK, if that is how you feel………but it left Churchill very anxious for a few days (three).

More confusing, if you sign an Armistice, what is the status of those who choose to fight on? French resistance and free French, very dodgy for them…if you have a govt in exile eg Netherlands, Norway, that is easier. What if the monarch stays behind? What if the government is overthrown in a coup and then changes sides (eg Italy)? What if a real peace treaty is signed, not just a surrender or armistice? You soon become a terrorist in international law!

Anyone can start a war. Finishing it………..

Mind you, there was no war in Vietnam, there was no war against Iraq, actually there was no war against France or even Napoleon (you cannot declare war on a person, especially if you refuse to recognise him as head of state) in 1815…funny business!

Gents ,
I did not stick to my question asked sorry about that! best to you all serge joe

The town of Hartlepool in the Uk has a bit of history during the Napoleonic wars, but they don't like to talk about it.

Poor old monkey :)

"Although the mayor had already played host to Soviet dignatories for a peace ceremony!"

Civic junket, surely not!

marshallken

The town of Hartlepool in the Uk has a bit of history during the Napoleonic wars, but they don't like to talk about it

Here's something that really happened.

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Paul :)

What is the conection between a cicus elephant and my question? greetings! serge joe

Probably a spy for the Kaiser.

srge joe

What is the conection between a cicus elephant and my question? greetings! serge joe

Well! Your original post had "true or fake" in the text, and considering the elephant and monkey were hung during wartime, both were probably from India, and both couldn't get a fair trial, plus the monkey story is probably a house-wives tale; there are some connections.

Perhaps if the monkey had been spanked instead, a happier outcome could have been the result

Paul :D