Help support TMP


"Early 13th Century Great Helms" Topic


4 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

In order to respect possible copyright issues, when quoting from a book or article, please quote no more than three paragraphs.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Medieval Discussion Message Board


Areas of Interest

Medieval

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Link


Top-Rated Ruleset

Basic Impetus


Rating: gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star 


Featured Showcase Article

Oddzial Osmy's 15mm Teutonic Crossbowmen 1410

The next Teutonic Knights unit - Crossbowmen!


Featured Profile Article

Crusader Jerusalem

Our man in Jerusalem reports on the sights of Crusader-era Jerusalem.


1,691 hits since 31 May 2014
©1994-2024 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Druzhina01 Jun 2014 1:35 a.m. PST

On the west front of Wells Cathedral is a statue with great helm with a single broad eye-slit reinforced at the edges by an additional piece of metal which also runs down the front of the helmet. A war elephant scene in a bestiary, Harley MS 4751, has simillar great helms. This has a similar compostion to a war elephant scene in the Rochester Bestiary, but, the great helms in this have divided eye slits. The other knight statue on Wells Cathedral also has a divided eye-slit on his great helm.


Are there other primary sources for early great helms with a single eye-slit?

MIRROR SITE
Wells Cathedral statue with great helm
War elephant scene in a bestiary, Harley MS 4751

Druzhina
13th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

French Wargame Holidays01 Jun 2014 3:35 a.m. PST

Great find, I have not seen that before.

Cheers
Matt

Swampster01 Jun 2014 4:29 a.m. PST

There are some with a side view which _might_ have a single slit.
I can't make my mind up about this
link
Is the knight on the right looking towards us through a single slit after being stabbed or towards his opponent in which case we can only see one of the eye slits though it seems very long.
Not sure about the rest of them either but on my screen I can't make out a definite vertical bar – but then the horizontal slits aren't clear either.

Druzhina02 Jun 2014 6:08 a.m. PST

That Speculum Virginum is now on-line, here is a larger image: Speculum virginum

The helmet of the knight on the right is of a different type and it is unclear where its front is.

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.