"Boki 6mm Testproject" Topic

There was arguing in other topic yesterday – how many ranks on base infantry must have in 6mm. I decided to sculpt some 6mm figures and check it out.

boki.ee/Miniature_Sculpting/A00001/B6mm.htm

First figure on worktable..

You are an artist sir! Your DAK figures are truly astounding.

You might well set a standard if the above is true 6-7mm

impressive sculpting (as usual)

The figures go back to 2010 but there is no indication that any are for sale From the pictures they look lie a large 6mm How much detail would survive the casting is still an open question ?

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Thanks!
Yes, exactly 6mm from ground to eyes.

Must fix eyes and musket.. and add shako and rolled overcoat.

Toronto48. I start sell my 15(18)mm works on last year.
See here..
boki.ee/Painted_Figs/Painted_Figs.htm

How much detail would survive the 6mm casting is right question.
I dont know yet.
But I will ascertain.

And what do you mean by large 6mm? Napoleon on this picture are exactly 6mm (from ground to eyes).

First picture on your post are visual evidence for one TMP topic, where people arguing, in what scale uniforms goes generic. Little figures there are only plane samples, quickly sculpted and destroyed after photoshoot.

Enough for today, finish on next day.

Those are amazing, although I doubt I could do them justice in painting them…

Hi Sho

First of all I love your figures and would definitely buy them when you get them up into production. I am a big 6mm fan and prefer gaming in that scale.

I did not mean to criticize your figures by putting them into the "large " category A lot of gamers confuse 5 and 6mm figures so I wanted to show that you figures are on the size level as Alder and Baccus although your anatomy and proportion look better.

Nice Sho! Love 6mm figs. Yours look fantastic.

Thanks. :-)

Toronto48, initially I don't have plans to put them into production. But so many people already ask this, so if I am happy with final result, I will put this little fellow into production.

When I sculpt my first 6mm in 2010, I choosing, in wich scale I want to sculpt. After trying different scales, I stays on 15(18)mm and set goal – one day I want to sculpt as good as Tony Barton.
My 2010 year 6mm figures are without wired skeleton, I sculpt them half by half, on plain paper. I am not happy with them.

But now fresh picture from last little fellow.
Must add shako's side shevrons and bayonet scabbard.

Excellent – I really would recommend doing some test casts of your work, these deserve to be in production!

I agree with Mike. Test cast some.

24 pieces I cast anyway. As I say in first comment, I sculpt them for testing – how many ranks are needed in 6mm for portraing on table thin line of battalions. Must be two or one are enough.

Now all needed details added and after hardening I do final elaboration before molding.

AB sculpts on tiles and uses FIMO – simply amazing

1/6 heads, yes. And standing figures too.
But I never found pictures, how AB sculpt marching 18mm napoleonic infantry figures.
I have now pack of Super Sculpey, but consider Tamiya Putty better for me.

I think it looks great. Whatever people choose to call them, I think compatibilty with the Adler range would be a great target.

Incredible workmanship! I would have thought the figure was at least 10/12mm ( if they were, I'd buy them like a shot!)from the detail, even 15/18mm.

Varnished, ready for moulding..

..and according to comparation chart, showed above by Toronto48, more in range of Baccus than Adler.

Arthur1815, you collect 10mm figures? Or 12mm?
Who is the best producer of such scale napoleonics?

i m waiting for you to make my old gurds brigades…

First half of mould.. everything looks normal.. no bubbles..

Gurds? Some muslim ot Indian troops?

First castings..

for testing this ok, but you should use a professional caster to give credit to your sculpting skills.

You are right of cource, but there are one little problem, we don't have one on entire country. It's may be, that I am the only one.. This is the reason, why I try to learn the casting secrets, as before I learn the painting and sculpting secrets.

I like the casting Sho. Lots of potential here. Sucks about the casting situation but I'm sure you'll master that too.

Maybe you can outsource the casting – it certainly distracts you from sculpting and painting – you could produce more masters in case you don't have to worry any longer about casting

Thanks, CaptainKGL. The casting results are perfect and the only problem is the length of bayonets. But I hope to resolve this with air escape paths.

You confusing me, von Winterfeldt. What is the difference for outsource the casting to professional caster and using professional caster?

Danikine74, you probably mean Old Guard? Sorry that I don't understand instantly.

I have done experiments with my unpainted figures.
Must say, that in spite of how many I love only one range, in 6mm the two ranges are better.
The two rows of shiny bayonets looks good and what is more important – only one range tend to fall over.
Therefore I prepare now strips with 6 soldiers, 15mm x 3mm. Two such strips in two ranks (12 soldiers, 15mm x 6-7mm) may form half of game unit and with this halfunits we may form line (30 x 7mm), column (15 x 14mm) or square for full unit.
Is this OK?

Strip looks like this..

That is goin to look really well. Amazing if you can cram 6 figs of scu detail into 15 mm.

Going to look ….. such detail ….. :-)

Are you planning on a whole range, or just a gew figs?

Couple of days ago I have only plan to test my sculpting and casting capabilities today in 6mm. But I am so happy with results that I allready converse this figure to grenadier, austrian infantryman and russian musketeer too.
Then I will make them available and if people are happy with them too as I am.. then I go to full range. In addition of my 15(18)mm range of course.

These look good, I hope you get a miniatures line off the ground!

Fresh masters on table.

Hi

Nice, very nice!

I will be interested to see how you deal with flag bearers!

As they tend to be frail…

Looking great

OUTSTANDING. I, too, sculpt in the 6mm scale so I know how difficult it can be. Truly exceptional. Keep up the good work!

Thanks guys!
Molds hardening in the oven, on the evening I begin casting.
Then it will be clear, are they worth something or not.
Hold your fingers crossed..

Hi Sho – I'm glad to see that you've been hard at work! These look great … and since you are experimenting, might I just note that no one currently does an early Austrian line in 6mm (the 1790's uniform with the casquet headgear, used during Napoleon's Italian campaigns and even through the later Switzerland and Marengo campaigns). A range compatible with Adler's great early French range would be great!

I'm not sure about the 15mm strips – it might be that a 20mm width would be more popular in terms of base sizes?

Cheers,

Christopher

Hi Christopher..
When 6mm doll is ready, the surface sculpting is relatively easy to do, imho. So all armies can be sculpted easily, if compare with 15mm scale. But I afraid, that the real problem is the casting.. all this tiny bayonets.

Strips length is experimental. French fusiliers can fit in 15mm, but new ones sadly not. Russian rolled greatcoat over the shoulder, Austrian canteen and French greanadier sword don't let put neighbours hands behind each other.

You can stretch them out a bit and it will still look very good. Keep in mind that both Adler and Baccus fit 5 figures per 20mm, so you have plenty of room to play with.

I wonder if there is anybody over here around H'sinki that does casting?

Damn! 3 days I cast and get no one fully casted strip, allways some figure don't get his bayonet. Gravity casting don't have enough pressure.
Solution.. I order centricast machine from Tiranti and try with 3 figure strips. This must be work..

Im afraid your going to be seriously hamstrung without the proper production kit and even then its not quite as simple as it looks.
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I agree with Leon Adler, why not contact Griffin in the UK or Schilling in Germany, both seemingly excellent casters.

This may be the next step, if I fail with centricast machine..

New gravity mould with 3 figure strip.

Well, the ones on the right seem to look just fine! Is the strip 15-20mm?

Left ones are as casted. You may then paint them separately and pull together after.. and they stay as right ones.
Strip with 3 figures is 8 x 4 mm.