msandro | 28 May 2014 10:59 a.m. PST |
I purchased from Gary Mills a set of US Army terrain boards several years ago that were used at Fort Riley or Fort Leavenworth. Gary was unsure exactly which location in Germany the boards modeled. I am wondering if anyone can help me figure out what part of German these boards represent. Here are two pictures, the first is an overhead view of the 8 terrain boards put together, and below it is a map Gary had of the region of German the boards represent. Does this area look familiar to anyone? I've looked through Google Earth around the Fulda Gap but can't make a match so far.
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Black Guardian | 28 May 2014 11:16 a.m. PST |
Impossible to tell if you don´t have any names on the map. Looks like there´s an Autobahn running east to west, but there are several potential highways running east to west, too much to identify the place without further information or very precise knowledge about the area it is supposed to model ;) Good luck though! |
Mooseworks8 | 28 May 2014 11:28 a.m. PST |
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Feet up now | 28 May 2014 12:00 p.m. PST |
For some reason I have a battle of the bulge feeling about this map set up Most probably totally wrong but I can see the 6th Pz rolling through the middle right to left . |
leg1on | 28 May 2014 12:07 p.m. PST |
It's unfortunate too the part of Germany they represent probably doesn't even still look like that due to development. Depending on how old they are of course. That said, I suggest you post on a forum or two with a good proportion of Continental European gamers. Lead Adventure comes to mind. You never know. Good luck. I'd like to know the answer if you do find out. |
Rich Bliss | 28 May 2014 1:08 p.m. PST |
DunnKempf? We were always told it was the Fulda Gap. We joked that it would be bad if the Soviets actually chose to attack somewhere else. |
Cold Steel | 28 May 2014 1:31 p.m. PST |
If those are the same boards we used a VERY long time ago, the basic plan was started as an area near Fulda, but with some changes. If you had the complete set, you would notice both ends of the boards matched. You could take boards off one end and move them to the other as units progressed down the table. |
Rudi the german | 28 May 2014 2:04 p.m. PST |
49° 45' 22" N 10° 3' 19" O I would say it is Wurzburg and Kissingen with the A3. It was the HQ of a US Mech Corps and last line of defence in the south if the fulda gap was breached. Greetings
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HistoryPhD | 28 May 2014 2:29 p.m. PST |
I was stationed in Würzburg. It does look familiar. |
Tankrider | 28 May 2014 4:28 p.m. PST |
Dunn/Kempf article from 1979.. the boards may be from this series. PDF link |
Major Mike | 28 May 2014 6:06 p.m. PST |
The boards are not Dunn/Kempf. The set of boards used in the 1980's at Ft. Riley were IIRC of the Hassfurt area which is between Schweinfurt and Bamberg. Those boards had a major river (the Main) that flowed across it. The boards were all hand made and the maker did some fudging on the north and south ends of the boards so that, if desired, you could scroll the map north or south in an endless fashion. With just a quick guess I think the major road that runs across the center, l to r, is the A3 and the area is ESE of Schusselfeld (which is between Kitzingen and Forcheim). The A70 runs along side the Main in some of the areas that has a greater density of wooded area. It is possible that it may represent an area near Amberg with the E50 running east/west. I have a set of military maps in storage, but it may take me going thru 50+ maps to try and find something close. One key item to look at is where the rail lines come close to the major road and run along side for a ways. Everything I've looked at so far really does not label raillines. I do not think it is of an area near Fulda. |
JammerMan | 28 May 2014 7:24 p.m. PST |
If those are just towns and villages and not major cities, heck it could be anywhere. I was stationed in Wildflecken in 70s and did a lot of training and exercises between Wurzburg, Fulda, Bad Hersfeld and Schweinfurt. Little towns just run together, lol. |
Lookingglassman | 28 May 2014 7:53 p.m. PST |
I have like 17 of the Dunn/Kempf boards and these aren't them. |
jurgenation | 28 May 2014 8:25 p.m. PST |
Also check out Hunfeld,also from the Dunn?Kempf seriesin the Fulda gap. |
Major Mike | 31 May 2014 8:28 p.m. PST |
IIRC, each of these boards is 4' x 2', making the total map area 8' x 8'. Common rules used at the time used 12"= 1km. So, I'm guessing that the map area is an eight Km square. As the map lacks a north arrow, I'm wondering if it might be upside down. I still haven't found an exact match. |