John the OFM | 28 May 2014 8:31 a.m. PST |
Ever run into that? I have, quite a few times. the first time was when I was just getting started in AWI. I was already heavy into Ancients, the usual Romans and Greeks. So, for a change I launched into both Sword and the Flame and American Revolution. A Napoleonics gamer was quite perplexed at what I saw in the American Revolution. Later, I was asking the vendor representative of a British company if his company would ever make Carthaginians. He was astonished. "Why would you ever want to do them???" he asked. He was heavily into sponsoring WRG Ancients tournaments, and thought (apparently) that WRG tournament viabiity was all that was needed. About a year later, his company did come out with Carthagos, and I have often wondered if he changed his tune. This came to mind when I saw ON THE FRONT PAGE someone mentioning the Chaco War. Guess what my first thought was? The correct answer is ALWAYS "Because it interests ME!" Not anybody else. So, I was not deterred. I happily still collect a huge AWI accumulation, both sides, skirmish and regimental. I played with Carthaginians for years too, although many different manufacturers. Had to sell them for food, sadly. This is also what puzzles me sometimes. People ask if a certain set of rules is still being played. Yes, at my house. Who cares if they are played in Los Angeles or Boston? *I* play them, and that's all that matters. *I* play AWI or Carthaginians. Or Chaco! |
WarWizard | 28 May 2014 8:34 a.m. PST |
Have heard this also. And I agree with you also. If it interests me then so be it. And I understand if you enjoy something I have no interest in. But not everyone seems to think likewise. |
21eRegt | 28 May 2014 8:42 a.m. PST |
I have thought it to myself many times, but never uttered it aloud. I just don't play some periods or genres. |
doc mcb | 28 May 2014 8:49 a.m. PST |
My brother had Carthos for many years. Never won a game in any WRG tournament -- in several dozen tries -- but they were beautiful and we enjoyed them. I own but have not yet painted the OG Seminole war line. Copl uniforms and dress, and I can use the Seminoles as Cherokees and such for AWI etc. But truth be told, skirmish-level warfare is basically the same for a given level of technology and culture. That is, Hurons against redcoats in 1755 or against bluecoats in 1790 is not much different than Sem War. If i am enjoying it, who else matters? |
Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut | 28 May 2014 8:54 a.m. PST |
I think there is enough room in the hobby for everyone. |
etotheipi | 28 May 2014 9:11 a.m. PST |
I have though both, "I wonder what's ingriguing in that?" and "Yeah
that's not my cuppa joe." But generally, I default to the OP's sentiment, "I guess they like it, and what sense does it make to judge others' preferences?" (I have a natural aversion to judgment of others' preferences, reinforced every time I remember I have been married over two decades.) I had someone ask that about a Luddite Rebellion game (a collection of small factory raid ~1 hour skirmishes) I brought to a con once. I asked him to watch one of the ongoing games. He played until our time on the table expired and pulled several others in. |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 28 May 2014 9:11 a.m. PST |
anybody else see chaco and think,"they made a war over Chance to hit AC 0?" |
darthfozzywig | 28 May 2014 9:18 a.m. PST |
anybody else see chaco and think,"they made a war over Chance to hit AC 0?" Almost every time. I assume it's a typo. |
Los456 | 28 May 2014 9:28 a.m. PST |
This is often due to the ignorance of the person making the statement. E.g. "Man I'd love to see this system ported to the Pacific theater" Dopey response: "Why would anyone want to do that? It's just beach assaults
" |
Bushy Run Battlefield | 28 May 2014 9:34 a.m. PST |
About the only war I think this about is the Anglo-Zanzibarian War. Seems like a lot of effort to go through, still if that is your thing . . . |
Mooseworks8 | 28 May 2014 9:43 a.m. PST |
I remember thinking that about Super Dungeon Explore and some big headed dungeon minis that came out a couple of years ago. Never posted though, if I don't like it I move on. I do remember when I opened up my first game store some 40K players commenting the same sentiment about some 25mm Greeks I had. And another 40Ker saying the same about LotR when GW first released it. He also added: "How many times can you recreate Helm's Deep? I mean really?" |
Intrepide | 28 May 2014 9:49 a.m. PST |
Most people don't just think inside the box. They fortify the box into a bunker. Years ago I used to expect more of fellow wargamers because we -are- such a niche hobby. But no. Its OK. I only like red wine and one brand of bourbon, so not so different. |
Timmo uk | 28 May 2014 9:50 a.m. PST |
I was amazed when the Perrys came out with the Carlist War range. I'd never heard of the war let alone seen the armies, although I think a 15mm range already existed. Ditto South American wars of Liberation however, it all adds to the richness of the hobby, who cares what anybody else thinks. Although mainly an historicals gamer I have a small sic-fi collection which has been derided on-line. |
Earl of the North | 28 May 2014 9:50 a.m. PST |
Only two 'games' come to mind, one was someone who wanted a game about concentration camp guards and another guy who wanted rape rules for his pillaging raiders. |
Dave Crowell | 28 May 2014 9:57 a.m. PST |
I wonder more at the "does anybody play
" Than I do at "why would anybody game
" The answer to the second question is always "because it interests them." As for the first question,what does it matter? If you have a rules question you simply cannot settle within your player circle or you are organizing a tournament or convention game I can see it maybe mattering, otherwise play what you like. I know I play some ancient and archaic rule sets, and also collect and play some oddball armies and periods. It's my hobby and I'll play how I want to. |
Buckeye AKA Darryl | 28 May 2014 9:58 a.m. PST |
But, but, but I LIKE Chaco Tacos! Tahitian Cannibal Wars, always wanted to game those. |
kallman | 28 May 2014 10:12 a.m. PST |
Kind of a follow on this when you state that you play X rule system and someone says out loud, "Oh that piece of crap game!" Or something along those lines. First you have just insulted me even if that was not your intent and you have also made sure I will not want to have anything further to do with you. I think expressing that you do not care for or like X set of rules or to get back to the topic period or genre is fine, but don't denigrate others for how they play with their particular toy soldiers. |
79thPA | 28 May 2014 11:12 a.m. PST |
Nothing worse than people who play that period with those rules. Blech. |
Bashytubits | 28 May 2014 11:38 a.m. PST |
The sheer scope and variety of subjects in our hobby is what makes it so much fun, entertaining and great. As for people who run their mouths thoughtlessly you can't get away from them. In my gaming group you behave or you get asked to not come back until you can act like an adult. In the past I used to play Johnny Reb II quite a lot and the group I was in at the time was scandalized when I fielded a Federal black infantry brigade and when I beat the living daylights out of some "elite" confederate infantry with my "green" colored troops I was disinvited from playing with them again, I guess going against their sensibilities and trashing them on the battlefield was unacceptable. |
Rrobbyrobot | 28 May 2014 11:39 a.m. PST |
I have rather narrow war gaming interests. But my historical studies are another matter. My biggest problem gaming some periods is a lack of available figures. Although I find I have less and less to complain about from that point of view. And I like Chaco Tacos, too. I note that they are neither pie or cake. But they can be very refreshing on warm days. It's 90 out on the front porch. Now where is my son? |
ACWBill | 28 May 2014 12:04 p.m. PST |
I used to hear that about my Fredericksburg, Chattanooga and Vicksburg Scenarios; usually prior to that person seeing or playing in the games. I try to keep such thoughts to myself. We have all asked ourselves that question about someone else's passionate interest. C'est la guerre! |
Ron W DuBray | 28 May 2014 1:08 p.m. PST |
I kind of feel that way about wars from 1890 to 1900. I just don't like the tactics used. |
Inkpaduta | 28 May 2014 1:20 p.m. PST |
Just now I saw the ad for 15mm Third Kingdom Koreans. My first thought was who will play that? Then, I realized there will be gamers very excited over this. Good for them! Good for wargaming! |
Mingans Marauders | 28 May 2014 3:39 p.m. PST |
As my local store only plays fantasy type games(Warmachine to the most extent) we get this line whenever we break out a histoical game. "Why would you ever want to play that? We know how WW2 ended." |
Who asked this joker | 28 May 2014 3:39 p.m. PST |
I would play just about anything. I collect only about a half dozen eras but I'd definitely play anything. |
DisasterWargamer | 28 May 2014 4:18 p.m. PST |
Always wanted to do more with Native American wars – pre-French and Indian Also would love to do more with the British in Southern Persia mid 1850s |
Intrepide | 29 May 2014 11:24 a.m. PST |
Although the history is mostly lost (and perhaps that is part of the draw) gaming the apocalyptic convulsions in the American Southwest of the 13th century would be interesting. |
Boondock Saint | 30 May 2014 10:26 a.m. PST |
Haven't encountered that with war games, but with rpgs. When WOTC Star Wars came out, we continued using WEG d6, despite having bought a lot of the d20 books. A lot of people think new automatically means better. |