Cardinal Ximenez | 25 May 2014 7:01 a.m. PST |
Bill, Since the latest implementation how have you been dealing with the flood of revenue? Have you hired more staff to process the influx of cash? I would hope that those who drew their lines in the sand are following through or are they simply "ignoring" them? DM |
Texas Jack | 25 May 2014 7:51 a.m. PST |
Thatīs what I would expect too. I hope those guys put their money where their mouth, and uberstifle is. |
John the OFM | 25 May 2014 8:02 a.m. PST |
But but but but
Tango has not been PUNISHED! He has not been specifically limited, by name! He has not been forced to put all his threads/topics in one Board! With HIS name on it! He has not been forced to post all of his finds in ONE thread! How can making the complainers do a little bit of extra work, particularly when they do not believe in stifles, solve the "problem"? |
Ivan DBA | 25 May 2014 8:03 a.m. PST |
I don't recall seeing a single user say "I will become a supporting member if the overstifle is implemented." I did see a lot of former supporting members explain that (like myself) they had stopped being supporting members because of how a certain issue was being ignored by Bill. Personally, I just paid to become a supporting member again, but that's just me. The only complainers I see around here are the people above me on this thread. Let it go guys. |
Cardinal Ximenez | 25 May 2014 8:08 a.m. PST |
Does this count? From Just Jack: Lastly, I'll add that I'm on the record as stating I will become a supporting member once this monthly garbage gets sorted out.
Or am I referring to a different garbage to be sorted out? My apologies if that's the case.
DM
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Robert Kennedy | 25 May 2014 8:23 a.m. PST |
LOL. John |
Ivan DBA | 25 May 2014 8:28 a.m. PST |
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Cosmic Reset | 25 May 2014 8:38 a.m. PST |
Hey, I think my wife has an account on here. I just picked up my first mongo-stifle. |
Texas Jack | 25 May 2014 8:43 a.m. PST |
Actually Ivan if you would care to go through the garbage pile of anti-Tango threads, there are a number of people who wrote they didnīt renew because of Tango and didnīt become a supporting member because of him. Don Manser was brave enough to wade through the sewage to find an example, and he should be commended for his bravery! |
John the OFM | 25 May 2014 8:46 a.m. PST |
I recall seeing quite a few saying they did not and would not renew because of blah blah blah. Their blah blah blah has been fixed. After you, Alphonse. No no no. After you Gaston! |
Oh Bugger | 25 May 2014 9:00 a.m. PST |
Yes and I recall you called them cheapskates have you kept a list and will you be informing us who has not renewed? How long are you allowing them? Also since you voted for the 'ignore' why are you so upset about it? |
John the OFM | 25 May 2014 9:08 a.m. PST |
Since you seem to have appointed yourself as my consistency monitor, you might want to pay attention to what I actually did say, instead of the words you want to put into my mouth. But since you asked, I do not care what they do and I am not upset. Have a nice day. |
Doug em4miniatures | 25 May 2014 9:15 a.m. PST |
I was greatly influenced in my voting decision by this quote from the 2011 poll: Here is a much more important question. Why do the stifle haters seem so determined to force us to read what idiots post? That's just a part of a passionate post in favour of the super-stifle from one of our more respected regulars. Doug |
Wellspring | 25 May 2014 10:04 a.m. PST |
Dammit John, 16 ignores already? How can a man catch up w/ you? So the perpetually offended can now protect their precious little minds from content they don't want to know exists. Congratulations. |
John the OFM | 25 May 2014 10:08 a.m. PST |
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John the OFM | 25 May 2014 10:11 a.m. PST |
For the record, I have Stifled only s. Not those with whom I disagree. I will use the Ignore function the same way, but have only done it with two so far. If people wish to not participate (or even know about) in threads I start about the American Revolution, that is their choice, and not my place to criticize them. |
Ivan DBA | 25 May 2014 10:39 a.m. PST |
Actually Texas Jack, if you read my post, that's not the point. |
Texas Jack | 25 May 2014 10:47 a.m. PST |
Ivan, I was not responding to the point of your post, but rather to your first statement. Regardless, I do think it is great that you have re-upped, hopefully others will follow. |
Doug em4miniatures | 25 May 2014 12:28 p.m. PST |
So the perpetually offended can now protect their precious little minds from content they don't want to know exists. Congratulations. That is really no way to talk about someone just because they voted "no"
. Doug |
Ivan DBA | 25 May 2014 12:43 p.m. PST |
Well, Texas Jack, what can I say to that? If your approach (just read and respond to the first sentence) is typical, then it explains why none of the people on your side of the debate could understand why we were unhappy. But whatever. I think it's ironic that after all the whining about too many threads being started about Tango, you guys just couldn't resist starting a new thread to complain some more after the matter is closed. |
John the OFM | 25 May 2014 12:57 p.m. PST |
That is really no way to talk about someone just because they voted "no"
. Sure it is. You should have taken me to task for what I said above about Stifling "contemptible morons" too. The whole topic of stifling is rather polarizing around here. I predict the very same reaction to "Ignore". It is being hailed now as a solution to a problem that I felt did not exist. I supported it because I think it is anybody's right to customize TMP any way they wish to. Not my business to tell them they cannot. Some people do not connect the right of free speech with the right to not pay any attention. It offends them to think that some may find their opinions worthless. I had an epiphany many years ago, while talking to some friends about others behind their back. And vice versa. It occurred to me that if X will say this about Y to me, and Y will say that about X to me, what were X and Y saying about ME? So, while I may find what W says useless and pointless, he has every right to feel the same about me. If I can ignore him, he can ignore me. And nobody gets hurt. Except of course for the heart and bowel spasms every time someone stifles me. Just remember that here on TMP, that not all opinions are equally valid (Only in La La Land are they), and not all posters are geniuses. I can opine that anyone who stifles me is an idiot. And he can stifle me (or ignore me) if he thinks I am one. Ain't that wonderful? I think so. I picked up 15 stifles this week, and 18 Ignores since last night. I will have to drown my sorrow over that with some pulled pork sandwiches (PM me for the recipe) and beer later. Too bad Game of Thrones is not on tonight, but I can always watch previous episodes on my Xfinity X1 On Demand. |
Texas Jack | 25 May 2014 1:01 p.m. PST |
Ivan, please donīt lump me in with "you guys". As a Southerner I should be lumped in with "y'all". As far as responding to your first sentence, that was the one that was incorrect. If you had put it at the end or in the middle I would have responded the same. |
John the OFM | 25 May 2014 1:04 p.m. PST |
I think it's ironic that after all the whining about too many threads being started about Tango, you guys just couldn't resist starting a new thread to complain some more after the matter is closed. Who is complaining? I am just saying that what has been done (and both are things I fully support) will not "solve" your "problem". There will be fallout, and very soon. Not from the expansion of the front page. who could object to that? Oddly, I think some would. But as I said above, the polarizing Stifle brouhaha will be nothing as to the whining about Ignore. Very soon, you will see the whining. "Boo hoo! They are ignoring me, the sissies who are not man enough to face a contrary opinion!" You don't think so? Just wait. |
Broglie | 25 May 2014 1:52 p.m. PST |
John Don't you think we have had enough of your opinions on this matter by now. Why not give it a rest and paint some AWI figures. Regards |
Juan Kerr | 25 May 2014 1:56 p.m. PST |
TMP has degenerated into a soap opera and some people appear to be loving every minute. |
darthfozzywig | 25 May 2014 2:03 p.m. PST |
JohnDon't you think we have had enough of your opinions on this matter by now.
I would have assumed that people who were tired of others' opinions would stifle/ignore them, given that there are now two options for doing so. Maybe we need a third? |
Broglie | 25 May 2014 2:16 p.m. PST |
Darthfozzywig I don't really want to ignore John the OFM but I just wish he would let the Tango issue go and get back to posting about the hobby. Regards |
Parmenion | 25 May 2014 2:26 p.m. PST |
I said I'd ended my supporting membership because of this problem, and planned to renew once it was resolved. I've submitted my renewal now, even though the 'ignore' function has only been partly implemented. Specifically, it only blocks ignored members' topics on the front page, not the message boards themselves. Currently, if you Stifle someone, you can no longer read their posts.The OverStifle is an advance upon that it blocks from your view any topics which that person initiates. I have no more desire to read topics from the member I ignored in the individual message boards than I do on the front page. Sadly the message boards do not identify the initiator either, for ease of avoidance. That said, the current version of 'ignore' is a tremendous improvement as far as it goes. |
Ivan DBA | 25 May 2014 2:53 p.m. PST |
John, The only person on this website talking about "punishing Tango" is you. Let it go. |
Broglie | 25 May 2014 3:18 p.m. PST |
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John the OFM | 25 May 2014 3:21 p.m. PST |
Maybe I have driven them underground. |
Ivan DBA | 25 May 2014 8:26 p.m. PST |
Only long enough to lull you into a false sense of security. Then we will come back, demanding an ultra-mega-hyper stifle. |
John the OFM | 25 May 2014 9:03 p.m. PST |
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darthfozzywig | 25 May 2014 10:07 p.m. PST |
I don't really want to ignore John the OFM but I just wish he would let the Tango issue go and get back to posting about the hobby.
There's that. Of course, I think I gained an Ignore posting a question about TSATF. :) But yes, this place is more interesting when people are posting pics of minis. |
Paint Pig | 25 May 2014 11:14 p.m. PST |
But yes, this place is more interesting when people are posting pics of minis. Can do
regards dave |
Ivan DBA | 25 May 2014 11:20 p.m. PST |
We had to destroy TMP in order to save its soul. |
Volstagg Vanir | 26 May 2014 3:43 a.m. PST |
YouTube link So, Wally, before you consider {stifling} everybody, remember this: One man may seem incompetent, Another not make sense, While others look like quite a waste Of company expense. They need a brother's leadership, So please don't do them in. Remember mediocrity Is not a mortal sin.
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Cardinal Ximenez | 26 May 2014 5:32 a.m. PST |
Since for some unknown reason I can't PM I'll post here. Received a few PMs today that go something like "You probably have me stifled or ignored but I wanted you to know that I have renewed my membership
.." Great. People with integrity, awesome. That was my point. As far as the stifle/ignore bit, just because I don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't mean that I don't want to hear what they have to say regarding a particular issue. Even when their responses to my own opinion are at times simply unwarranted and border on personal attacks to stifle and/or ignore would only be to my own detriment. Hope everyone is having a great weekend. Best, Don |
Shakespear | 26 May 2014 5:11 p.m. PST |
I paid via paypal yesterday. Im waiting
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StarfuryXL5 | 26 May 2014 9:33 p.m. PST |
I don't really want to ignore John the OFM but I just wish he would let the Tango issue go and get back to posting about the hobby. Maybe we can get a Conditional Stifle, which would only block a thread or post if a specified word were contained therein. |
Supercilius Maximus | 26 May 2014 10:52 p.m. PST |
I don't think the "Stifle" and "Ignore" buttons are strong enough. I think we need something that makes a social statement at the same time – an "Ostracise" button (that would be "Ostrasize" in American, obviously). |
TelesticWarrior | 27 May 2014 3:21 a.m. PST |
From Just Jack: Lastly, I'll add that I'm on the record as stating I will become a supporting member once this monthly garbage gets sorted out. Has he paid up yet? |
Canuckistan Commander | 27 May 2014 3:41 a.m. PST |
Once I am done my tour and retire I will. I have a ton of minis to sell as I down size. |
Etranger | 27 May 2014 3:48 a.m. PST |
I don't think the "Stifle" and "Ignore" buttons are strong enough. I think we need something that makes a social statement at the same time an "Ostracise" button (that would be "Ostrasize" in American, obviously). Sending miscreants to Ostralia is cruel and unusual punishment. Although I suppose it explains how poor Sparker ended up in the 'Gong. |