Weasel | 20 May 2014 4:37 p.m. PST |
One thing that's been on my mind is whether "weird war" tends to attract the scifi gaming audience more than the "straight" ww2 gamers? So, do you play mainly scifi games, mainly historicals or do you play both? Was the attracting to "Weird War" the fantastic bits or the historical bits? |
Extra Crispy | 20 May 2014 4:41 p.m. PST |
I play both SciFi and historical, but while I do a lot in WW2 (15mm and 6mm) I don't do any "Weird War II" |
Ron W DuBray | 20 May 2014 4:46 p.m. PST |
I'm building a historical WWII force that can be used for both. I'm also expecting a heap of minis from the Incursion kickstarter. I do it already with my modern troopers fighting zombies monsters, space aliens and Iraqis. |
Pictors Studio | 20 May 2014 4:49 p.m. PST |
I have some and have played once or twice in the past with the intention to do more. It was more of a fading interest in WWII that stopped me than anything else. |
AlohaRover | 20 May 2014 5:13 p.m. PST |
I play Dust, Bolt Action, and Flames of War
so both |
Garand | 20 May 2014 5:38 p.m. PST |
No. I like SF. I like Historicals. But never should the two meet. I personally do not think WWII needs to have "weird" elements to make it more "interesting." The history itself makes it more than interesting IMHO. Damon. |
Katzbalger | 20 May 2014 5:41 p.m. PST |
I play both WW2 and WWW2--and science fiction games, historical games, even steampunk/Victorian SF. Rob |
Jakar Nilson | 20 May 2014 6:23 p.m. PST |
I used to, but nowadays I tend to draw more Weird World War II than I play. Still constantly play WWII. |
Pizzagrenadier | 20 May 2014 6:29 p.m. PST |
I play WWII out of a love of the period and as a way to study and apply the tactical challenges of the period. I play Weird WWII purely because stompy robots and zombies look cool in period flavor. I like them both for different reasons and it all depends on my mood. I got into mini gaming from Rogue Trader in the first place, so I'll always have some love for scfi. |
kallman | 20 May 2014 6:32 p.m. PST |
Garand I think that is being self limiting but to each their own. I enjoy gaming both with WW II and Weird WW II. However, when it comes to WW II the majority of my games are historically based either on a researched scenario or on a plausible action. Yet there is something that is extremely appealing about Weird WW II. After all the one thing more fun than killing Nazis is killing Nazi Zombies. There is something intrinsic to the melding of science fiction, or horror, or pulp, or any combination of the three to what is still the seminal conflict in human history. Even as the war was raging popular art forms such as comics, movies, radio, short stories, and novels had already begun to meld the elements science fiction and horror and I think were a vital part of popular art. Post WW II a plethora of media have engaged in all of these variations. The current most popular form of creative entertainment,i.e., video games, has mined this rich sub genre for content. Perhaps part of what drove this was the fact that the major bad guy of the war, Adolf Hitler, was known to be fascinated by the Occult. American comic books during WW II gave us Captain America, The Black Hawk Squadron, and of course even Superman fought the Axis powers.
Weird WW II is a rich genre and still has a wealth of potential. |
Brian Smaller | 20 May 2014 6:38 p.m. PST |
I play Flames of War, that is Weird War Two enough for me :) |
whitphoto | 20 May 2014 6:52 p.m. PST |
Yup. I firmly believe that killing nazis is the true American pastime and will gladly do it any setting! |
Garand | 20 May 2014 7:15 p.m. PST |
It may be self limiting, but when I play WWII I want to play something historical. When I play SF I want to play something SF related. if I combine the two, the two get in the way
the game does not push my historical buttons nor does it really push my sense of SF either. A sort of jack-of-all-trades but master of none. Damon. |
John the OFM | 20 May 2014 7:35 p.m. PST |
I play Flames of War too. I also play GASLIGHT. My GASLIGHT armies are 90% "real stuff". That means that I only have to add a minimal amount of the "strange stuff" to play VSF. Really, that is all you should use. If my friends would go along with it, I would add zombie falschirmjaegers. Well, I would paint them for my friends. I only play Good Guys. |
Mooseworks8 | 20 May 2014 8:23 p.m. PST |
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kallman | 20 May 2014 8:46 p.m. PST |
Garand, I understand your point of view. Thanks for being willing to expound. Hey John I understand where you are coming from as well. I am running a mostly historical German East Africa circa 1900 this week. It has all the historical elements German Kriegsmarine, Askaris, Rugga Rugga, Hostile Ngoni natives, Big Game Hunters, oh and then there is the Giant Ape running around in the jungle. |
Bashytubits | 20 May 2014 9:08 p.m. PST |
Nope but maybe in the future. |
Ray the Wargamer | 20 May 2014 10:10 p.m. PST |
No weird war stuff
.time and money force me to focus on WW2. |
Martin Rapier | 20 May 2014 11:06 p.m. PST |
I do WW2 and sci fi, but not Wierd War 2, it was quite weird enough! Anything like that I restrict to VSF or adventure gaming. |
Bunkermeister | 20 May 2014 11:49 p.m. PST |
I do WWII, WWWII, and pulp, sci fi and anything else I can get WWII into! It allows me jus that many more uses for the massive WWII army that is my collection. Mike Bunkermeister Creek Bunker Talk blog |
The Gray Ghost | 21 May 2014 4:29 a.m. PST |
Both one straight WWII and one Pulp/Weird WWII |
Umpapa | 21 May 2014 5:12 a.m. PST |
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Cadian 7th | 21 May 2014 6:38 a.m. PST |
Both, the only thing I like more than a "finished" army, is the opportunity to use it in several games/settings. For Weird War 2 I only need to add a few pulpy models/units which go back to the shelf if I am playing a historical scenario. |
Mick A | 21 May 2014 7:13 a.m. PST |
Up until now just normal 15mm WWII, but as I recently bought a load of Clockwork Goblin German blisters that will soon be changing
:) |
corporalpat | 21 May 2014 7:32 a.m. PST |
Have done historical WW2 since forever. Now I'm working on Wierd WW2. |
DyeHard | 21 May 2014 8:55 a.m. PST |
Started out playing only historicals. Then seduced by a Star Trek spaceship game. Then seduced by Space 1889 Then spun off on my own Victorian Science Fiction 15mmvsf.bagofmice.com Now play Historical, pure Sci/Fi, and several weird, mixed, alternate history, and sci/fi and fantasy type games. Most recently: "Witchfinder General" dashingdicegames.co.uk And working towards "All Quiet on the Martian Front" (AQotMF): link link So Both WWII and Weird WWII plus other "Weird" and alternate historicals. |
Lion in the Stars | 21 May 2014 12:26 p.m. PST |
Both. I have BF's Panzer Lehr, Fallschirmjager, Brit 8th Army, and US 1st Infantry Division; and I have Eureka's Scifi German Stormtroopers plus a bunch of Gearkrieg minis. Sometimes I even mix the two together (I have a bunch of the DP9 Walkurie light walkers done up as SdKfz221/222 armored cars, for example), and I'm working on a Seelowe force using a bunch of the Loki walkers modified into amphibious barge-towers per the Gearkrieg books. Sure, some of what was attempted in WW2 is pretty weird all by itself, but I like 'What-if' games. Though I don't include any Nazi flying saucers. I'd play Dust if it was 15mm. Love the aircraft. |
Spendlove | 21 May 2014 1:57 p.m. PST |
I say bring on more 15mm weird war II I don't play regular wwii and I don't do sci fi so I am probably the odd one out here. Just modern zombie horror and weird war II cover my needs. I have a lot of normal 15mm World War II stuff but it would be boring and far too rivet counting alone. It needs zombies, super heroes, ray guns, power armour, crazy laser tanks, panzer mechs and werewolves to truly bring it alive. Now, can someone pop out some 15mm WWII vampires? |
Spendlove | 21 May 2014 1:58 p.m. PST |
Also, what Lion in the Stars said. Dust needs to be done in 15mm particularly the infantry! |
Gear Pilot | 21 May 2014 4:08 p.m. PST |
I enjoy both history and sci fi, so being able to mix the two is gravey. Dust in 15mm would be fantastic. |
pigbear | 21 May 2014 4:36 p.m. PST |
I game WW2 and have zero interest in weird. Ask me again in a couple of years, I've been known to change my mind. |
Ron W DuBray | 22 May 2014 6:57 a.m. PST |
This book got me into the idea of WWWII. That anything could happen beyond things like "castle wolfenstein" and "hellboy" :) In the Balance (Worldwar, Book One) By Harry Turtledove. and the rest of the books in the story line. This seems to have broken the dam into a fast growing flood of WWWII books and movies since. |
Lion in the Stars | 22 May 2014 1:12 p.m. PST |
Does deploying the German IR systems count as "weird war"? I'm planning on a full platoon of Panthers with the IR gear, the SdKfz251/20 'Uhu', and their Vampyr-equipped infantry escorts. Just the one platoon, which is only 2 Panthers IIRC. |
Weasel | 22 May 2014 4:13 p.m. PST |
reason I am asking is I am working on a set of WW2 skirmish rules that is straight WW2 history, but along with other plans I have for them is some "Weird war" stuff to spice things up. Appeal to two audiences at the same time. Zombies are mostly done (three types: mindless shamblers, reanimated soldiers that can still fire weapons and "Resident Evil super zombie" guys with MG42s) Planning on doing vampires, werewolves and a bunch of other stuff too. |
DyeHard | 22 May 2014 4:42 p.m. PST |
"Does deploying the German IR systems count as "weird war"? That is pretty close. But if you have a Maus in combat, that is definitely "Weird War". I think the '46 Kreig type game is the thing that draws many people into playing (essentially) fantasy WWII. |
Amalric | 22 May 2014 7:01 p.m. PST |
I play both regular WW2 and Weird. |
Legion 4 | 23 May 2014 7:50 a.m. PST |
When it comes to WWII, the Maus, Lowe, E-100 and Ratte is as weird as I go
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