"WGF 28mm plastic British Infantry sprue pictures" Topic

This week's information release finally has the pictures of the raw plastic. The old thread was getting a bit long so I started a new one.

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Sprues include some models in shortened coats for use as Lights, and there are Grenadier heads on the sprue among the other hat options.

The box will have two of the 12-soldier frames, one of the 6-figure command frame and a base frame.

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Those are phenomenal. Not my period/interest, but amazing none the less.

Wow – are Wargames Factory back from the grave?

Yip (pun intended_ see their zombies and survivalist kits all and more than you would ever need) now they are doing even better stuff. Sorry if I sound like I've got shares in WGF but I just think you get great value from them ;) cheers

Awesome! I cannot wait to get these on the painting table!

WGF have been "back from the grave" for a couple of years now.

Perhaps a trivial point but the miniatures don't appear to have stands.

They will have a runner with 26 bases and the command runner has the remaining 6 bases.

A base sprue will be provided.

When will they be available? Aren't they also going to be accompanied by a new rule set?

I read on a Dreamforge thread that WGF is prepping a container from the factory. If the AWI is on that we could probably see a July 4 release.

The author of the "Land of the Free" rules coming later this year from Osprey was in consultation with WGF regarding the project. They're not joined at the hip, but the range and rules will suit each other.

July 4 sounds likely to me too, for the obvious reason. My impression is that they want to have the Continental Infantry and Colonial Militia in the warehouse for one three box release.

Well, "For What It Is Worth Dept": I recently received (3 days ago) my box of 15mm WWII US Infantry company. I was impressed with the quality and their compatability with PSC offerings! But to see the frames of the AWI shown above, I will now turn to the "Dark Side" and do AWI…a period I have successfully put off for decades, and in 28mm no less!

Seriously, it does my heart good to see success out of a historical miniatures company that seems to "get it right" for their customers the first time round! My hat is off to WGFactory for their successful efforts!

If their American infantry takes the same road, they complement the Perry sets quite nicely, with all gaps able to be filled by metals.

Need to resist…

Puster,
Just give in to the sickness…I am on my personal quest to do AWI on a 1 to 1 scale!

"If their American infantry takes the same road, they complement the Perry sets quite nicely, with all gaps able to be filled by metals."

I'd have thought Green Stuff was a more logical filler for the gaps in these figures :)

Seriously, they look really nice, and if the general size and build allows the swapping of parts between the WGF and Perry sets then that really helps the people who want their army to be unique.

My only comment about the Perry figures is that the metals in the WotR range aren't as crisp as the plastics and take more prep time to prepare for paint (if you ignore the assembly time). I assume much the same is true of their AWI range.

I want to morph some of these to an earlier date ( Musket and Tomahawk) 1745-70 period and think they will do the job very well. Can see myself do AWI as well. Aside what say the gamers about 'British Grenadier' rules, worth while getting? Cheers

I've been kitbashing with Perry and WGF for some time now and they're usually pretty good together. Some of the older WGF kits can be a bit crude, but the more recent ones are fine.

Thanks for all of the positive feedback guys! I did all of the research and development for our American War of Independence range for our sculptors and was very pleased with the results we achieved; it's great to hear others share my enthusiasm.

We have six sets planned for this range. If you haven't been following us the three that we've announced are British Infantry (which will include options for Regulars, Grenadiers and Light), Continental Infantry (which will include options for Regular, Light and Washington's Guard), and Colonial Militia (half of the figures will be in everyday wear, half of the figures will be in hunting shirts/buckskins). The other 3-sets we'll be announcing later. We haven't announced a release date yet but it will be soon.

You can follow us on Facebook link our web page wargamesfactory.com and on our forums forum.wargamesfactory.com for the latest information and pictures of what we're working on. Hope to see you there.

Hats of to you mate.
Blinding work you must have a Ace Geezer sculpting .

@ Lonnie,

First off, I like the figures – the shoulders are a bit bulky, but otherwise the sculpting is good, especially the faces, and you've obviously researched the drill-book poses for the loading/firing sequence. You might want to point out that these can also be used for those Loyalist and Continental units that had buttonhole lace.

Just out of interest, what made you opt for the 1768 Warrant, rather than the "field mods" look (overalls and shortened coats – although I notice you've included slouch hats) which would have given your figures a longer window of use? Was it a desire to avoid competing directly with the Perry plastic British who are obviously aimed at mid-/late-war, and do you plan to do another British set at some point?

I don't do Facebook, so I am out of luck.

Can't you see them, John? I'm not on Facebook either and I can see the main photos and the expanded-size individual photos just fine.

Militia

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Thanks Sidney. It was a great range to research. I'll pass along the compliment to our sculptor.

Supercilius, we chose the 1768 Warrant because it's all about perception rather than reality for the majority of people. Button counters aside (no offense to those of you who consider yourselves button counters), the vast majority of people collecting armies have a perception of what the British (Colonials and Continental Army as well as the other sets we're bringing out for this range) wore. This perception has been formed from Hollywood and other media, for good or ill, and is what sells to the general public. We wanted our kits to be historically accurate and since every soldier in the King's service had uniforms which complied to the 1768 Warrant, even if they only wore them on parade rather than the field, we went that route. If we wanted to be completely accurate we'd have done our Continental Infantry in rags rather than the 1779 Regulation Uniform but rags, as a whole, don't sell and frankly the 1779 regulations look better painted up on a tabletop in my opinion.

As to the Perrys, they do good work and I love some of their stuff but we aren't concerned with what they're doing. People are either going to purchase ours if they like shooting and/or more "combat oriented" poses or theirs if they like static or marching poses.

Lonnie – Thanks for that. I understand what you are saying – a lot of people for whom AWI is not a primary gaming period are going to see these sets as a means of "dabbling" at less expense than with metals and, as you say, quite a few such folk are going to be happy with the "look" you've gone for. As far as the 1768 and 1779 regs go, your research is sound and FWIW I think you've done a good job – they are nice sets.

Whilst you are obviously ploughing your own furrow, it did strike me as interesting that your sets kind of "dovetail" with what the Perrys are doing, which is actually good from a sales viewpoint. Good luck with them.

I would be interested in a ragged look.Would like to see a Valley Forge box.I hope to get a box of Colonial militia to use for FIW if they match up with Crann Tara and Fife & Drum.I hope also that you do a Woodland Indians box.You got to have indians when you do an 18th cen. war.
Mark

They are now on sale on our web site (they shipped to distributors last week). link

The pictures look tremendous

Our order is placed for folks in the UK and Europe who want a set.

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Like several other posters here, I have never really got into the AWI beyond my early days of gaming and Airfix plastic sets, so I look forward to these with great interest!

kind regards

Rob
scarabminiatures.com
warandconquest.co.uk

Latest confirmation from WGF is that the fourth box in the range is Woodland Indians as suspected.

And some box art. May be some time before other details are forthcoming, although they've said the kit is designed to be usable from FIW through to War of 1812.

Good Morning,
I would like to tell you guys about the miniatures. I received my order yesterday and started right away gluing them up. Wow, just wow they are fantastic looking figures. Thoroughly impressed with the very sharp cut lines on the belts and other equipment and the overall detail. Perry's are great looking miniatures but I have to say that these miniatures are more detailed and the molding is crisper. Also, it seems the plastic is stiffer on these miniatures then the Perry's. Don't know if that is a good thing or not yet.

Pros: easy to glue up. It almost takes more time to cut from sprue and lightly sand than to glue up. Sharp detail throughout. I really like the left hand being molded to the left arm. Perry's have the left hand molded to the gun and you have to match up the arm to the hand. A little harder to do – more time consuming. This construction allows you to glue shooting arm to body then glue support arm to body bringing left hand up to hold gun – easy. But now the left hand doesn't fully enclose the gun. Pick your evil.

Cons; the feet look huge, the shoulders are huge, I don't like the fact that you have to purchase two sets to get a 24 man unit or so it seems at this point (I have glued up 12 so far and will finish the rest tonight). Or you have to file shoulder lace off the light infantry/grenadier arms. Or you would have to paint on lace to get a full unit of Light's or Grenadiers. I wish WGF would have created separate Light's and Grenadiers. Mold lines are slightly heavier than Perry's yet small enough that paint may easily cover them. I don't file mold lines on my Perry's but felt I had to on the WGF's.

Sorry to be so long winded. I like these miniatures and can look beyond the cons. At 3 feet you may not notice the cons so much anyway. I will be ordering more along with the Continentals and Militia. Can't wait to start painting.

Just a follow up to my post above: I base for Black Powder and use 24 man units; 6 stands of 4 each. 5 stands of rank & file and 1 stand for command. I was able to build 20 grenadiers plus command from the WGF box along with a couple more lights. They are in the painting department as we speak. For the Grenadiers I will have to paint on the shoulder lace as only 6 or 8 miniatures have shoulder lace molded in. So you're able to produce a unit, a 24 man unit from the box. Thought I would follow up to be fair.