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ModelJShip17 May 2014 6:32 a.m. PST

Hello all,
I have completed a diorama I had in mind for some time. I think the result is quite satisfactory.

Represents the Spanish Infante Don Pelayo boat going to succor the Spanish ship Santisima Trinidad.
I was inspired in a picture of the painter Antonio de Brugada Vila.

I hope you like.

Greetings,
Julián.

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Greenfield Games17 May 2014 6:41 a.m. PST

That is quite satisfactory.

dBerczerk17 May 2014 7:00 a.m. PST

Magnificent!

Now if I could only get my Games Workshop Man o' War Bretonnian and Empire fleets looking that great!

jpattern217 May 2014 7:00 a.m. PST

Gorgeous!

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian17 May 2014 7:19 a.m. PST

Wow.

MacrossMartin17 May 2014 7:32 a.m. PST

Erm… I hope you appreciate that this is meant as constructive criticism, Julian, but the shot-holes in the sails look like armour-piercing rounds have gone through the metal sails. They really are several magnitudes too large.

Might I suggest drilling through with a pinvice, should you attempt that effect again?

Otherwise, I think its a grand little piece. Well done.

whitejamest17 May 2014 7:42 a.m. PST

It's beautiful Julian, I love your work!

Can I ask what do you use to sculpt the waves?

Also, in the painting, is that ship's boat flying both a Spanish and a British flag? I'd not seen something like that before.

- James

Zeelow17 May 2014 7:56 a.m. PST

Excellent!!!

ModelJShip17 May 2014 8:16 a.m. PST

Hello MacrossMartin , thank you for your review. One criticism is always welcome.
To destroy the rigging, masts and sails used to use chained bullets. They were kind of bullet or half bullet joined by a chain or a solid rod. The effect was devastating. The masts and rigging were rent. Concerning candles…. imagine. These projectiles entangled and cut the sails. The diameter effect was not only a solid bullet, was the sum of two solid rounds but the chain or bar.
If you want more inforation you can see in this link

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain-shot

I hope that answers your question.

Best regards,
Julián.

PS: My English is "rustic", sorry if I have some mistake ;)

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP17 May 2014 8:45 a.m. PST

Beautiful work!

idontbelieveit17 May 2014 2:11 p.m. PST

Nice.

Brian Smaller17 May 2014 2:48 p.m. PST

Fantastic diorama. Great use of great models.

ModelJShip18 May 2014 5:06 a.m. PST

Hello whitejamest,
I would explain the theme of the waves, how could contact you?

A greeting,

Julián.

ModelJShip18 May 2014 5:07 a.m. PST

Thank you all for your comments and constructive criticism.

MacrossMartin18 May 2014 5:10 a.m. PST

Wasn't really asking a question, Julian… I've done a wee spot of Nappy naval gaming and modelling now and then… ;)

My concern is more about the manner in which you've portrayed the damage to the sails. The strips of fabric hanging down are cool, (although over-scale – I'd just paint them on,) but all the damage seems to have come from behind the sails, which looks a little odd.

It looks a bit like HUGE cannon balls, over a metre across, have punched through the sails, leaving the canvas frozen in place.

Chainshot was most commonly fired at longer ranges (lower guns could not often elevate sufficiently to target the rigging) and rarely from a raking position – if a ship of the line could rake its opponent, it would most commonly target the hull, inflicting the maximum damage.

James – I'm pretty sure the painting depicts an action between TWO ship's boats – one British, the other Spanish. If you look carefully, you can see oars raised in anger!

KTravlos18 May 2014 6:47 a.m. PST

I like it

ModelJShip18 May 2014 6:51 a.m. PST

Hello MacrossMartin,
The chained bullets they used to shoot from the upper decks. In inferior decks the cannons shooted double bullet to perforate the hull.

To gain the maximum height, it was expected the rocking of the ship, which added to the inclination of the gun carriage allow to shoot sails.

In respect of large holes, next time I will make smaller and on both sides.

The two small boats that come in the picture, they have omitted in the diorama.

Best regards from Spain,
Julián.

Volunteer Fezian06 Jun 2014 9:47 p.m. PST

Julian please, please cross post your work on the Napoleonic Naval Discussion and Naval Painting boards. I have missed it up to now since I rarely look here for age of sail posts.

James,
If Julian sent you tips about how he does his sea bases, please share my friend.

Regards,
Vol

scarlinosr110 Jun 2014 5:18 p.m. PST

Nicely done!!!

ModelJShip11 Jun 2014 2:38 p.m. PST

Hello Volunteer, I've been a some days out of my city and I have not had a chance to answer.

I'll remember your advice and will put in every post.

James not contacted me but if you are interested in knowing how to make the basics, I have no objection to explain it.

Regards,
Julián.

Muerto19 Jun 2014 6:21 a.m. PST

Great work, Julián.

How do you paint the decking?

ModelJShip19 Jun 2014 9:41 a.m. PST

Hello Muerto,

I use Game Color paints. To paint the decking I use the ocher and dark brown ink washes.
I use techniques dry brush and ink washes.I get good results.
A greeting,
Julián

Muerto19 Jun 2014 3:06 p.m. PST

I get good results.

Sir, you get excellent results.

Thanks for the tip.

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