"MERCENARIES IN WOTR" Topic

Hello. I wonder which models
  I can use to Irish and Scottish mercenaries to war of the roses.

could use the infantry of the 100 years war?

could use the infantry of the 100 years war?

No, too early.

Irish and Scottish mercenaries in the Wars of the Roses.

Don't know about Irish – were any actually involved in any battle of the WOTR?

For Scotish and French mercenaries, I recommend the Perry plastic mercenaries:
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To answer my own question, the only battle at which Irish mercenaries were deployed was Stoke Field, 1487. Some would argue that strictly speaking, Stoke Field is not even a battle of the WOTR, these wars having ended at Bosworth in 1485. Be that as it may, the Irish at Stoke Field are described as "beggarly, naked and almost unarmed" (Brooks, 2005)

Mortimer's Cross.

Then HYW would work for the Irish?

Thanks for answer

really i donīt know at well how to make an army list for wotr.

i want this troops for medieval warfare and pow.

how many mercenaries can i put in a battlefield?

excuse but i,m too lose

For a starter, you may want to look at this thread on the Lead Adventure Forum:
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For basic army lists, you can browse the WAB Supplement for medievals. Also, Ian Heath's Armies of the Middle Ages is still useful for a first overview. There are some more specialized publications from the Lance & Longbow Society:
lanceandlongbow.com
If you want to go more in depth, have a look at the books by Anthony Goodman and John Gillingham (both titled The Wars of the Roses).

Cheers,
Shandy

How i make scottish mercenaries without plastic perry?
excuse me i love metal miniatures…………

the only battle at which Irish mercenaries were deployed was Stoke Field,

Correction: and Mortimer's Cross! (thanks, GT!)

really I donīt know at all well how to make an army list for WOTR.

I usually reckon on 50% archers, 40% billmen and 10% MAA. Any mercenaries, if spearmen or pike would be included in the 40% billmen, handgunners in the 50% archers.

Bear in mind that this is only a rule of thumb – we really have no idea what the force composition was, but IMHO these proportions seem to work.

Don't forget the battle of piltown a War of the Roses battle in Ireland.

Sorry Pipers to answer your question Old Glory make Irish and Scots for the War of the Roses.

"…Stoke Field … and Mortimer's Cross"

And I don't think we can completely rule out the idea that Ormond, who brought the Irish to Mortimer's Cross, might have had some Irish troops with him at Towton as well.

Hello again. and how could i represent the Welsh soldiers?

By my rather limited understanding, the Welsh in the late 15th century would have looked pretty much like their English counter-parts. Just paint them with appropriate livery coats and banners.

Thanks for answer and excuse my english……….
can i use the perry mercenaries cutting the pike?

saludos

If I were to make some WotR Welsh, my choice would probably be to use the figures from the original Perry plastic WotR kit (armed with bows, bills and spears).

Then again, I haven't actually seen any drawings of the later 15th century Welsh soldiers.

Thanks again. And for TVE welsh what colours for The livery costa can i put? ThE same of the army?
Is for terry gore's medieval warfare

The Scots were present in large numbers at Verneuil, Cravant and Bauge as well as many sieges.

to be honest they wouldn't have looked very different from the English and French. It's a myth that the Scots were not equipped as well as everyone else.

The important thing would be to get their captains coat of arms and the livery of said captain correct.

Darrell.

Just Add Water II Blog (Painting etc):
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La Journee Blog (Hundred Years War):
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Gewalthaufen Blog (Late 15th Cebtury Blog):
gewalthaufen.blogspot.co.uk

The Scots were present in large numbers at Verneuil, Cravant and Bauge as well as many sieges.

Were any of those battles part of WotR?