"27th French Line regiment?" Topic

Over 2 years ago, I packed up all my source materials on the Ist Empire, including Commandant Boucquoy's book on French Infantry. I was planning eventually to do a battalion of 36 of the 27th Line, another that served in Spain, but wanted to wait until I could get full-dress French in the 1807-12 long-tailed coat in 28-30 millimeter, then cut away the leggings above the knee – a unique characteristic of this unit suggested by the Commandant.

But I now want to do them using Victrix plastics of that era, and do not have any notes about them. I recall sapeur and fusilier drummer with orange facings.

Does anyone out there have access to information from Bucquoy's book?

I recall grenadiers with bearskin, but with/without brass front plate; white or red cords and flounders?

Color combination of Voltigeur epaulettes, cords, etc?

Help!

GdeP

To start, a muscien – with indeed orange facings ….

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- Sasha

I have the book. There are these plates on the 27th:
1) Grenadier Fifer- Bearskin with plate and white cords, red plume, orange facing and chevrons "jaune d'or" (in the text). Red turn backs.
2) Grenadier Officier- Bearskin with plate and yellow (gilted) cords.
3) Grenadier (après Victor) – Shako with standard red cords, chevrons and red bands. Red collar piped white, red epaulettes with something which seems a yellow/orange grenade.
4)Voltigueur (après Victor) – Shako with standard yellow cords, chevrons and yellow bands. One picture has the shako with the topmost band green. Yellow collar piped white. Yellow epaulette with green demi-lune.
5) Fusilier sapeur and drummer orange facing. Drummer with chevrons "jaune d'or". Blue drum rings. Sapeur bearskin with plate, white cords and red plume. red epaulettes with something which seems a yellow/orange grenade.

Here is the fifer …. (zoom in to see, it is from google image cache) ,,,,

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- Sasha

Bucquoy shows the 27th during the period 1808 to 1812. A grenadier is shown in shako, etc. -- pretty standard. He also has a grenadier officer in bearskin with plate, the usual gold cords and a red plume. Two pictures (the grenadier I mentioned and a voltigeur) in gaiters below the knee, but this may be from 1812 because all the others are in gaiters above the knee. The text says these are probably post-1812 (but with no Bardin uniforms). The sapeur and four musicians have pale orange plastrons but red facings/collars. The musicians have inverted "v's" the length of both sleeves in yellow tape.

Osprey, Napoleon's Line Infantry (MAA 141), says the voltigeurs had a green upper shako band and cords, white lower band, green-over-yellow plume. This is also how Bucquoy portrays the voltigeur. The musicians are as above, but one source says orange cuffs and turn backs.

Nothing about them in Elting, Napoleonic Uniforms I.

You folks are amazing!

Alexandre: The Victrix sets have 8 officers – 4 each of two types. This musician tempts me to convert officer with lapels to a musician, with trefoils on the shoulder, and v-notched boots.

The fifer is probably also applicable to the drummers of the grenadier companies.

Altefritz and Dan: I like the voltigeur with the top green band on the shako. Did he have solid green cording and flounders? Green epaulettes with yellow crescents mentioned.

I do not recall the plume being yellow with a green tip! That would be most colorful!

(I must be away to a Doctor's appointment for a couple hours.)

GdeP

That was quick! Home again.

The voltigeur has green cords and flounders and epaulets, trimmed (i.e., crescent) yellow, in the early period picture, Pom-pon is yellow.

Yellow shako-bands, cording and green-trimmed yellow epaulets in the later portrayal, with a yellow plume over a green pom-pon.

I'm beginning to think Napoleonic uniforms are complex!

Scroll down to page #3816 in the link below

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Paul :)

Paul,

Very cool! Thanks!
:-)

- Sasha

Hello, Paul (Dibble):

I can't find the page on that link. How to navigate?

GdeP

I can! I'm sure that others can too. perhaps it's a problem with your computer.

Go to Armchair general Napoleonic era forum, click Last page in the best Uniform stickie thread, then scroll down to page #3816.

Paul :)

Thank you, Paul! Not my computer – more my 77 years with low computer skills!

Great information! I may never have to unpack my old stuff.

GdeP

@ Dan Beattie

"I'm beginning to think Napoleonic uniforms are complex!"
Agree
My conclusion has become… there are many iterations/issue being used at the same time and have thus handled this by painting them into the different btns of the regiment (each receiving the different issue that is know or mixing within the same Btn depending what it is..) once my research has revealed such info.
All bases become covered so to speak…
MG