Gunfreak  | 23 Apr 2014 5:47 a.m. PST |
I have to say Monmouth, somewhat large(still small by European standards) Americans actualy had alot of regulars not just militia. Actualy some heavy guns. Lasted more then 2 hours ect. |
| sebastien | 23 Apr 2014 6:23 a.m. PST |
Very interesting battle….planning a refight as soon as i finish some of the Perry figures. The tensions between Lee and Washington are fascinating and it's not clear to me who was right! |
| John the OFM | 23 Apr 2014 6:42 a.m. PST |
Considering that Lee was writing memos to the British on how to beat the Americans while their prisoner, I would side with Washington. Just because. |
| PzGeneral | 23 Apr 2014 7:08 a.m. PST |
Let's see…Lee refused command. Then insisted on command. Then failed to work with subordinates. Screwed up the attack, retreat turned into rout.
Washington got everything back in order, held the line and fought the British to a draw. In the end the Americans held the field. I too vote GW. |
| ironicon | 23 Apr 2014 9:28 a.m. PST |
I'm just getting into this period and thought I'd start in 1778. I can then develope my army(s) for earlier and later. I read the Osprey book on this battle.Lee seems to be talented but "difficult". The americans gave as well as they got. |
| CPBelt | 23 Apr 2014 10:26 a.m. PST |
Wouldn't Brandywine be most like European battles? I take this is the drift you're looking for? |
| Inkpaduta | 23 Apr 2014 10:28 a.m. PST |
I would think that Yorktown would be a very European style engagment. |
| John the OFM | 23 Apr 2014 12:33 p.m. PST |
Yes, you could almost put Yorktown in the Low Countries.  |
| Gunfreak | 23 Apr 2014 1:41 p.m. PST |
"Yes, you could almost put Yorktown in the Low Countries" Yes, but more in the 1600s then late 1700s |
| Major Bloodnok | 25 Apr 2014 2:52 a.m. PST |
Let's see…Lee refused command. Then insisted on command. Then failed to work with subordinates. Screwed up the attack, retreat turned into rout.
Washington got everything back in order, held the line and fought the British to a draw. In the end the Americans held the field. Interesting. You make it sound as if it was a great Rebel victory. If I remember Clinton was retreating from Philadelhia back to New York. He is attacked by the Rebels who are hoping to capture his baggage train. They get nowhere. Afterwards Clinton continues his retreat to New York, unmolested, because the Rebels are too exausted to stop him. Hmm. |
| dantheman | 25 Apr 2014 8:01 p.m. PST |
Major Agree with everything except the last bit. GW did not want a set piece battle to begin with and he didn't need to fight one. Most of his troops were not even engaged. The French already declared war and both armies were reacting in response to the greater strategic situation this caused. That is why the battle went the way it did. Not because of any tactical outcome. I live 40 minutes from the Battlefield and took my kids there last week. I highly recommend it. It is not developed and still rural. A pleasure to walk. |
| Gnu2000 | 26 Apr 2014 12:09 a.m. PST |
I'd say Breed's Hill was the most atypical. Or Lexington/Concord. |
paints brigs for the British fleet.