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muntatores16 Apr 2014 12:13 p.m. PST

I'm gathering a few figures for small games Greeks vs. Trojans. The main protagonists are, of course, well covered by Redoubt's and Foundry's ranges ( Mycenaeans, Hittites, Lukka etc.)

Does anyone have advice on which figures would best represent the Thracians of the time?

Thanks

JC Lira16 Apr 2014 12:51 p.m. PST

Foundry can't be beat IMHO
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Edit: I love the look of those figs, but I posted them without considering that these are classical era and I have no idea what Thracians would have been wearing/armed with in the Bronze Age.

TKindred Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2014 8:37 p.m. PST

It's the same era. I am firmly in the camp that there is a faux 500 year gap in that history and that the Myceneans, Troy, et al, were 500 years closer to our time than the archeologists place them.

It's the fault of the Egyptian Mafia grin that uses a messed up timeline to date everything else. As much as Velikovsky was a bit of a nutter on other things, his arguments in favor of cutting out that 500-year "dark ages" bit is right on the money.

It's why Homer could be so exact in his descriptions of arms, armour, tactics, names, etc. He lived right at that time and NOT 500 years later.

V/R

TKindred Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2014 8:39 p.m. PST

Start here:

varchive.org/dag/sett.htm

Grab a drink and set aside a half hour or so, and read along through this page and the following ones. Even if you disagree with his evidence and arguments, all you've wasted is a bit of time.

HarryHotspurEsq17 Apr 2014 11:08 p.m. PST

HIGHLY debatable theory there TK….. and that is phrasing it very politely. : )

EvilBen18 Apr 2014 4:29 p.m. PST

We've been down this little chronological byway before, so I shan't repeat here what I said then:
TMP link

except to say that I did follow the link supplied by TKindred, and I still ain't buying it, I'm afraid.

That's no help regarding the OP, though. That's not a part of the world I know much about in that period. I'll try to find someone better informed and ask after the weekend, if nothing more helpful appears in the meantime. My gut feeling is that some of the Foundry figs (from the Thracian, Trojan War and Bronze Age ranges) will actually be fine.

Lee Brilleaux Fezian19 Apr 2014 6:47 a.m. PST

If you don't go with classical era Thracians (which – even if you accept the 500 years gap – are like showing Marlborough's army for the modern British forces, and Crusaders if you don't) I'd go with Foundry's bronze age Europeans.

Who are based on Danish illustrations, Denmark being really really really – um, not – close to Thrace.

colin knight19 Apr 2014 7:00 a.m. PST

Would they not be like Gutian Hill tribes at Trojan war period?

EvilBen19 Apr 2014 9:54 a.m. PST

Some of the figs in the Foundry Bronze Age range are very obviously northern European; some of the Thracians are very obviously classical: I realise that. But some others seem (to me) sufficiently lacking in specific equipment that they could do service elsewhere with minimal conversion. If there isn't a meticulously-researched range for the northern Aegean region c.1200 BC out there already (is there?), you have to start somewhere, right? That may require just adopting a view on how you want them to look.

For all I know Colin is quite right, and the Cutting Edge Gutian types are gorgeous, but there you would have the same problem – they are pretty distant in time and space.

Sorry, didn't mean to go on. As I say, not really a combination of region and period I am well-informed about, although I shall go to see if I can rectify that. I should thank the OP for inspiring me in that regard, and if I discover a huge relevant literature I'll let you know.

Firescale21 Apr 2014 5:13 p.m. PST

Cutting edge miniatures use to make a pack of 'Late Highland Warriors" for there Bronze Age range. I cannot see them on the Warlords site so hopefully they will come out eventually as they would work really well I think.

battle master22 Apr 2014 5:44 a.m. PST

Yes the Later Highland Warriors would be suitable for Bronze age Thracians as I refer to in the narrative on the site. Warlord are slowly bringing everything out so they will be out again soon. I may still have a few packs available if anyone wants to e-mail me. pete

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