Gunfreak | 15 Apr 2014 11:50 a.m. PST |
So lets settle this, did or did not viknigs use this. This topic will settle the debate once and for all. I have noticed illustrations and media, showing this type of amor on vikings, yet I have not seen any viking figure with this, not in 15mm, 28mm or 40mm. So is there something wargamers know that others don't? |
Rhoderic III and counting | 15 Apr 2014 11:54 a.m. PST |
This topic will settle the debate once and for all. Will we not be allowed to discuss it again after this? Better bring our A-game, then! |
leidang | 15 Apr 2014 12:51 p.m. PST |
I think there is often confusion between true, overlapping scale armor and small metal plates sewn between layers of leather. |
dragon6 | 15 Apr 2014 12:58 p.m. PST |
Lamellar armour was in use by the Byzantines and brought back by Russ/Vikings. How common? Don't know but definitely used by some. Scale is cheap(er), easy and one of the earliest forms of metal armour. So both. |
John the OFM | 15 Apr 2014 1:19 p.m. PST |
Vikings were noted souvenir hunters. "Look at what I brought back from Constantinople!" I remember a few Varangian figures Back in the Day with lamellar armor. Hinchliffe, Garrison, Essex, etc. |
GurKhan | 15 Apr 2014 1:28 p.m. PST |
There were lamellae of Central Asian style excavated in the "Garrison" at Birka, in a 10tgh-century context – link |
Billy Yank | 15 Apr 2014 2:11 p.m. PST |
Several of Old Glory's 25mm Viking hearthguard have lamellae armor. Billy Yank |
Ron W DuBray | 15 Apr 2014 2:18 p.m. PST |
The north man used every kind of armor that was in use at their time and before, What they did not make themselves they raided or traded for, It has been found by testing they even traded for the steal they used in the super swords. The steel came from the east and they reworked it. So the answer to your main question is yes they used it and every other kind they could have gotten their hands on. |
Gunfreak | 15 Apr 2014 3:43 p.m. PST |
But did they use it often enough for it to be worth making figures with them? Looking at my 40mm Sash and saber, my 15mm peter pig and the plastic gripping beast. they all have either leather padded armor or mail. I guess you could kinda paint the padded leather as "lameller" in 15mm, as they have square "pads" if I paint the pads metal they might look like metal plates fastend togeather, even if they are a little "fat" |
Delbruck | 15 Apr 2014 5:39 p.m. PST |
Gripping Beast Jomsvikings
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saltflats1929 | 15 Apr 2014 6:00 p.m. PST |
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LongshotGC | 15 Apr 2014 7:04 p.m. PST |
Let us never speak of this again
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Great War Ace | 16 Apr 2014 8:28 a.m. PST |
Just throw in a few Varangian Guard figures so that your battle line looks like it contains some "retired" guardsmen who came home with their Byzantine kit. I have a few of them mixed into my Anglo-Saxon Housecarles, but that's because I also use them as Vikings when they aren't Anglo-Saxons
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freecloud | 20 Apr 2014 1:13 p.m. PST |
"Vikings were noted souvenir hunters." "Look at what I brought back from Constantinople!" "Ah – You're supposed to take the Byzantine out first" :D |
Adrian66 | 22 Apr 2014 11:08 a.m. PST |
Vikings would wear the best they could find and since they covered an area from America to north Africa to Byzantium to eastern Europe, they had a massive choice. The majority would use what common in their particular area of operation. Those raiding east would see a lot of leather and lamellar based armour, those heading south, chain and early plate and finally west for leather and chain. Entirely possible for those in America etc to see wooden or bone armour. |