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Fotherington Thrip09 Apr 2014 9:57 a.m. PST

G'day All,

I have seen that the Japanese artillery (including AT guns and 70mm guns) are generally in a khaki colour but I would rather paint them in camoflage\three colour scheme which I think they also did. I can't find any references or pictures though.

Did they do it and if so was it through the war?

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Ethanjt2109 Apr 2014 1:29 p.m. PST

I will admit I know very little about the Pacific Theater but I've only seen pictures of Gray, Green, or Khaki. Hope it helps.

dBerczerk09 Apr 2014 2:17 p.m. PST

I don't recall seeing any color photographs of Japanese towed artillery painted in the three-color camouflage scheme.

Most references I've seen show them painted in "Japanese Artillery Brown" -- a medium-dark red brown.

I've also seen artist depictions of Japanese towed field artillery in dark green.

I recommend either a medium-dark red brown or a dark green, dry-brushed with lighter shades and then a dusting of medium grey or light sand to show operations under field conditions.

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Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP09 Apr 2014 2:28 p.m. PST

May I suggest you find a copy of "Japanese Infantry Arms in World War II" by Ritta Nakanishi, ISBN: 4-499-22690-2. It is chocked full of illustrations of how things were carried, used, maintained, transported and associated crews. Items covered: grenade launchers, Anti-aircraft weapons, anti-tank weapons, Types 11 and 96 LMG; Type 92 7.7mm HMG; Type 92 20mm Automatic gun; Type II 37mm Flat Trajectory IG; Type 92 70mm IG; Type 94 37mm ATG; Type 41 75mm Mountain Gun and military swords. Illustrations are in color. IMHO, it covers most of what would be used in China, Burma and India theaters.

Perhaps the best reference in English is U.S. War Department "Handbook on Japanese Military Forces", ISBN: 0-8071-2013-8. It has it all, but in B&W photos. Logistical efforts (of which camo would fall under) is discussed. remember, in the Pacific, the Japanese moved a LOT of captured arty pieces to the occupied islands. Also, when researching the TO&Es, you will discover that it mostly goes out the window--Garrison Commanders could and did use any and all hardware and personnel they could get their hands on! Many organizations (like Naval Landing Parties) were sometime kept at over 1000% in manning and equipment! So the concept of "the Japanese doctrine was to use Yellow, brown and green paint in some directive is not what you will find. instead, you will fine directions on how to fortify island positions and local materials to hide emplaced equipment. Japaneese Garrison Commanders had a LOT of flexibility in such matters.

In the first book, the "metal" equipment is depicted as being a light olive---very much akin to Citadel's base "Death World Forrest" green. No examples shown of any disruptive camo painting applied. Again, not saying you will not find such, just that such attempts to apply paint in camo "scheme" seems to be limited to available resources, time and manpower to apply it with rather than any enforced doctrine.

I sure hope this makes sense and helps. I have seen even a bright yellow used to help disrupt the shape of Japanese tanks. Not a color "I" would have thought "useful" to try to get a tank to blend into it's background!!!(yet another next to it, supposedly taken in the same battle totally devoid of "yellow" and only had brown and green applied…same unit, too!)

Bottom line: Anything goes and you will be pretty much historical for the Pacific Island battles/campaigns. IMHO.

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