"Baggage camps for successor armies" Topic

Does anyone have any good ideas of how to put together a decent looking for Successor armies in 28mm? My Silver Shields need something to "protect".

Thanks for the information!

They had fortified camps so a bank and ditch with palisade sounds right.

Have a look at the DBA web site – mainly 15mm but some good ideas.

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Also Baueda have useful 15mm & 28mm bits and pieces including a sacrificing priest/altar. Plenty of food for thought on their site.

Lewisgunner:

I do not think that the early Successors made use of fortified camps with banks and ditchs. Pyrrhus was notable for introducing this to Hellenistic warfare I believe.

Mithridates:

The DBA site has some good ideas. Some are a little over the top but it did give me some food for thought.

Thanks

Diodorus Siculus gives two examples of Lysimachus fortifying his camp with ditch and palisade in one paragraph (XX 108) just before Ipsos.

The silver shields really need to have their families and accumulated wealth to protect, or at least to regain by turning over their own general.

Swampster:

Thanks for the source from Diod.

I agree that a camp for the silver shields need to include women, children, and lots of baggage.

There is usually a difference between a camp and a baggage camp-- the camp at Gabiene seems to be just an extemporized zeriba like edifice, owing to the lack of wood in the area.

Hellenistic camps were noted by the Romans (later on) to be not as formidable as theirs. First off the ramparts were not high, and second the scrub and brush is noted as having the stems and stalks cut into spikes able to be grabbed and pulled away-- since they were not trimmed--- so a looser order of piled up brush seems to be their take on the matter, with some cut into stakes.

Lysimachus' fortified camp was unusual as he had to stay and be besieged in it-- so that's a grander structure than the usual "baggage camp".

So for Gabiene I would go with some carts (because if Alexander and Philip banned the carts-- the Successor seemed to get lax on that discipline). The carts can block some parts of the passages, where you can have a low rampart with brush piled up. Tents are mentioned for the Antigonos (as there is the anecdote about the soldiers grumbling about their foolish generals-- and Antigonos inside the tent -- telling them to take their bellyaching out of earshot).

Other than that just mules and maybe camels and piled up loot and the wives---- the wives are the difficult models…

These camels and mules are part of my Successor loot caravan with Nabataean guards:

I wondered what to do with my old Hinchliffe Palmyran camelry. Those spare Essex Biblican horde figures will now be useful as baggage attendants. Thanks JJ.