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rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2014 5:25 a.m. PST

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Maybe I'll live to see A.I. gunships like those shown in Ghost in the Shell S.A.C. 2nd Gig.

doc mcb07 Apr 2014 5:32 a.m. PST

Isn't that what the Germans did with the V1?

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2014 5:39 a.m. PST

About 10 years ago "Flight" was full of articles on a proposed drone conversion for the F16.

Still makes a lot of sense.

wminsing07 Apr 2014 5:46 a.m. PST

Not even a new idea; lots of early cruise missile experiments were jet fighters operating under radio control.

-Will

rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2014 6:26 a.m. PST

It's true that the idea is not new, remember the dropships in Aliens? The marines were able to call them down using a remote link. In the case of radio control drones, I suppose even Gigantor was a remote controlled bot, and the original manga is almost 60 years old.

Personal logo Jlundberg Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2014 6:39 a.m. PST

I know they were being used as targets fro fighters in the 80's

GeoffQRF07 Apr 2014 7:07 a.m. PST

QF-4 (F-4 Phantom drone):

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QF-106 (F-106 Delta Dart drone):

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But I think the intention is for these to have some degree of autonomy, not just be manually flown:

"The main goal of developing autonomous helicopters for resupplying troops is to reduce the need to use ground convoys to deliver food, water, and weapons, as they present attractive targets for enemy fighters."

Mako1107 Apr 2014 9:06 a.m. PST

That F-106 is way too nice looking to be used as a drone.

Personal jet perhaps.

"Not even a new idea; lots of early cruise missile experiments were jet fighters operating under radio control".

If I recall correctly, they were doing this back in WWII, with B-17s. Filled with explosives, they packed quite a punch.

Not sure if they had others before that, other than as mentioned, the V-1, and/or air-dropped missiles/bombs.

Ron W DuBray07 Apr 2014 1:21 p.m. PST

lets see an F16 can do a 15 G turn till it runs out of fuel, but no pilot can. it only makes all the since in the world to remote pilot the thing.

Altius07 Apr 2014 1:42 p.m. PST

Didn't Hezbollah use this method successfully to attack the Israeli navy a while back? Worked pretty well, if I recall.

Mako1107 Apr 2014 5:19 p.m. PST

I thought that was an anti-ship missile, fired from the shore, which someone labeled a drone. Of course, we're splitting hairs between names on that issue, I suppose.

Sergeant Paper07 Apr 2014 9:04 p.m. PST

The US Navy also used to use QF-86s until they used them up.

Etranger08 Apr 2014 3:59 a.m. PST

It's an old idea – the British were using the Queen drone in the 1930s & the RN had the great grandfather of the cruise missle in use in 1927. link (and a fascinating bit of trivia contained in that link…) Autonomy would be the new bit for a drone. Skynet used plenty of them…..

Altius08 Apr 2014 6:00 a.m. PST

I thought that was an anti-ship missile, fired from the shore, which someone labeled a drone. Of course, we're splitting hairs between names on that issue, I suppose.

It was reported as a civilian plane packed with explosives. I can't find the original Haaretz article right now, but I found this: link

They've been using smaller UAVs since the, some of which the Israelis have shot down. They're saying they can get they can carry 40-50 kg of explosives, but I don't know how well that's been tested out.

Aleator08 Apr 2014 3:40 p.m. PST

It was Hezbollah. Who says it was unmanned?

Lion in the Stars09 Apr 2014 1:41 p.m. PST

I know they were being used as targets fro fighters in the 80's
Try 1940's! But they weren't autonomous

I would still like to know how well these autonomous drones will dogfight!

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