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Von Miligan07 Apr 2014 3:27 a.m. PST

British Army LCP (Light Car Patrol) Ford Model T's.
British LCP units were based on the Ford Model T truck. Adapted and then used extensively in the Libyan, Egyptian deserts and latterly Palestine from 1915 to 1919. They carried out extensive mapping of the deserts , war operations, patrolling, observing and reporting back on enemy movements plus deep penetration raids.

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These are the forerunners of the famous WW2 long range desert patrol groups, the WW1 LRDG. In World war one, these vehicles were the height of technology, being pushed way beyond the makers design specifications. Both the men and vehicles traversed and discovered part of the deserts previously never visited by motor vehicles. Famous raids including the capture of the head of the Libyan Sanuzi who, inspired by the Turkish Ottoman Empire to revolt and attack the British. Appearing out of nowhere in their battered Model T trucks, these men attacked and captured their king and took him back to Cairo to "re-consider" his options!

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The men, the vehicles were dressed to live and fight in these harsh conditions. As time went on, no two vehicles or crews looked the same. Each loaded and dressed to best face these extreme conditions. This offers the modeller a great licence to create unique looking models and crews.
The LCP kits come in 4 different types representing the majority of the Model T vehicles found in reference pictures. Each vehicle comes with drivers and crew, weapons and stowage options. To enhance the kits further there are accessory packs of additional crewman, a vehicle mounted Vickers machine gun and crewman plus additional stowage. There are multiple types and poses of crewman. Crewman with kits may vary. These included seated, kneeling, standing and open handed as well as men seated holding rifles or open handed for other weapons.
LCP Kit 1 features a fully loaded Model T LCP truck, 3 crewman, some stowage, Lewis gun on Pintal mount, and optional vehicle accessories like Rifle in Cavalry holster, doors, spare tyres, fuel can etc. This costs £9.50 GBP.
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LCP kit 2 has a different bonnet configuration, external home made water condenser and windscreen. It too has 3 crewman, some stowage, Lewis gun on Pintal mount, and optional vehicle accessories like Rifle in Cavalry holster, spare tyres, fuel can etc. This costs £9.50 GBP.
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LCP kit 3 has a heavily modified front end with bonnet removed, condenser mounted on bulkhead, plus 3 crewman, some stowage, Lewis gun on Pintal mount, and optional vehicle accessories like Rifle in Cavalry holster, spare tyres, fuel can etc. This costs £9.50 GBP.
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LCP kit 4 is the total stripped out version of the model T. No mud guards, no running boards, modified rear stowage platform at rear, long range fuel tank fitted. This is the ultimate go anywhere LCP. It comes with stowage, stacked fuel cans, tent age, 3 crewman, tools, spare wheels, guns and other optional vehicle fittings. This costs £10.50 GBP.
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LCP accessories include a vehicle mounted Vickers Machine gun, separate water can for cooling, ammo box's, 2 gunners in relaxed poses, an officer observing with binoculars. This can be fitted to any of the LCP's but it is a tight fit. This costs £3.00 GBP.

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LCP accessory 2 is 3 additional dismounted crewman. 2 men with rifles, 1 firing, the other walking both wearing solar topee and 1908 pattern webbing. A 3rd man is prone, firing a Lewis gun in field service cap. This costs £2.00 GBP.

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LCP set is all 4 models, plus all the accessories packs in a big set. I plan to make a special Vacuum formed plastic base for these at some point in the future as well. The entire sets which in all accessories packs would be £47.50 GBP but as a set with the special vacuum formed base will be £45.00 GBP.
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Additional stowage can also be purchased so you can really load these trucks up.
These will go well with our recently released range of "revolting Arabs" as well.
All kits come with instructions for building. These were designed by Tom Lobely and myself. Tom had the original concept and we made the vehicles and crew figures between us.
It's a truly inspiring subject to either model or game with. I am sure these models can be put to use for other periods outside the deserts of WW1.
You can see more pictures and comments at our face book site at :
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These will be available after Salute as I have a short holiday this week.

Thanks for your interest and I look forward to hearing your comments,

Regards
Paul T@EWM

Brownbear07 Apr 2014 4:31 a.m. PST

These look great.
What figure range could be used with these vehicles.

Marianas Gamer07 Apr 2014 4:38 a.m. PST

Wow!!! These are something special!! I need them for Back of Beyond.
LB

Tarleton07 Apr 2014 4:56 a.m. PST

Tremendous!

Cracking models and figures, I think you've excelled yourselves with these…. Great detailing items.

Any plans to sell just the crews on their own sometime?

IagreewithSpartacus07 Apr 2014 5:16 a.m. PST

Is it the angle of the photographs, or do the figures look as if they're of a slightly larger scale than the vehicles?

lgkmas07 Apr 2014 5:26 a.m. PST

Can't find a scale. What are they? 28mm (hoping)

Von Miligan07 Apr 2014 5:47 a.m. PST

all figures and vehicles are 20mm scale, thats all we do. Figure positions in vehicles varies, see pictures in background.
Glad you like them.
Will be available after salute. I will post alink when they are up.
Vehicle crews will be available separatly, packs of 6 different ones, £3.50 GBP.
reccomend our OTT middle east ranges of Australian, Indian, British empire, Ottaman Turks and "revolting arabs" to go with them……?


Cheers
Paul T@EWM

Gaz004507 Apr 2014 6:21 a.m. PST

Superb! A complete patrol for £45.00 GBP- can't be bad!
Adding to my list of goodies!
Ideal for Back of Beyond in 20mm…..just excellent!

IagreewithSpartacus07 Apr 2014 6:25 a.m. PST

"20mm" is not a scale; but corresponds with 1/76 scale. In relative terms, the vehicles look 1/76, and the figures 1/72.

In the background photographs the figures seem smaller in relation to the vehicles than the corresponding models do.

bsrlee07 Apr 2014 7:04 a.m. PST

Reviresco do similar Model T conversions in 25/28mm, but detailed after specific photos.

ridgeback12307 Apr 2014 10:51 a.m. PST

I have seen this little beauties' in the flesh & also the period photo's they are based on & regardless of peoples opinion on 1/76 & 1/72 the crew figures "look right" in the car's .Also worth note is all the components were sculpted by Tom & detailed by Paul & as such are all made to the same "scale"
Ian ( Shellhole & 20mmZone )

Gaz004507 Apr 2014 11:49 a.m. PST

Several of the background photo are taken from low angles whilst the miniatures are taken from above………different POV and perspectives…..if you look at the driver figures 'exposed' over the car body in both real and minis, the proportions match.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse07 Apr 2014 3:42 p.m. PST

Those are very cool !!!!

PiersBrand07 Apr 2014 4:08 p.m. PST

Given my great-great-great uncle served in these vehicles in WW1, and was an avid photographer, they certainly look right from the pictures I have that he took nearly 100 years ago.

Really nice work on an overlooked subject. Would be nice to paint too, very different.

jgibbons07 Apr 2014 5:46 p.m. PST

Any suggestions for reading material on the use of these guys?

They really look like there should be some amazing stories!

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2014 7:46 p.m. PST

These are really great models for those who use this size of figures. I would get them if I were not fully committed to 28mm figs.

Not meaning to hijack the thread, I would point out to those who share this size with me that Company B makes something close to these
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Lion in the Stars08 Apr 2014 10:15 a.m. PST

Given my great-great-great uncle served in these vehicles in WW1, and was an avid photographer, they certainly look right from the pictures I have that he took nearly 100 years ago.

Really nice work on an overlooked subject. Would be nice to paint too, very different.

Contemplating stretching the Battlegroup rules to WW1, Piers? Or do you have a different set in mind for WW1?

Any suggestions for reading material on the use of these guys?

They really look like there should be some amazing stories!

Yes, I'd love to hear about the adventures and exploits of those crazies!

*google*

Light Car Patrols 1916-19: War and Exploration in Egypt and Libya with the Model T Ford ( link )

Wheels Across the Desert: Exploration of the Libyan Desert by Motorcar 1916-1942 ( link )

Steel Chariots in the Desert ( link )

And if you're really feeling rich (book's $120 USD+ on Amazon!), The Other Desert War: British Special Forces in North Africa, 1940-1943 (Contributions in Military Studies) ( link )

Those models are beautiful, they're making it *very* hard to stick with 15mm for almost everything!

ridgeback12308 Apr 2014 10:18 a.m. PST

Light car patrols 1916-19 mentioned above provided most of the information used in the mastering of these kits
Ian

BlackWidowPilot Fezian08 Apr 2014 1:26 p.m. PST

This will be fantastic to add to the Model T patrol car and Rolls Royce tenders from Reviresco to chase my Tumbling Dice Turks around the table. An excellent subject indeed, Paul!evil grin

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
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Von Miligan14 Apr 2014 9:09 a.m. PST

Now available on the EWM webstore at:

earlywarminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=366_385_472_475

Cheers
Paul T@EWM

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