| Bertie | 06 Apr 2014 10:36 a.m. PST |
I've updated my series of articles on DBP. The most recent one is probably of more use to the traveller than the wargamer though: link Cheers,
Bertie |
| Silent Pool | 06 Apr 2014 10:47 a.m. PST |
That's great. Just what I'm into at the moment. I am really glad to see that model of the Eliane bunker and trenches. I sure would like to visit Vietnam. Am reading Martin Windrow's The Last Valley. This adds to the interest. |
 Legion 4   | 06 Apr 2014 3:48 p.m. PST |
heyjoe … if you have not, read Bernard Fall's Street Without Joy and Hell In A Very Small Place … |
| darthfozzywig | 06 Apr 2014 4:38 p.m. PST |
I've read both Bernard Fall's excellent books. I still need to read The Last Valley. |
| Bertie | 06 Apr 2014 8:49 p.m. PST |
If you are looking for good reads here is an English translation of Langlais' book: PDF link I've checked the translation and it is OK. Apart from the map on page 12 which is in the original the illustrations have been added and most are sound, except the Katyushas on page 74. Cheers,
Bertie |
| Thomas Nissvik | 07 Apr 2014 3:13 a.m. PST |
Bertie, I thought I was going to have to wait until I had learned French to read Langlais book. Thank you! Thank you so very much!
I owe you a  |
| Bertie | 07 Apr 2014 3:55 a.m. PST |
"Pernod… Pernod with lots of ice"
317e Section
!
Cheers,
Bertie |
| Thomas Nissvik | 07 Apr 2014 7:05 a.m. PST |
317e.
With Spanish dub and English subs:
YouTube link
Or in French, with no subs:
YouTube link The DVD is on Amazon but seems to be without subs. I bought my copy of Dien Bien Phu from Thailand, that was the only way of getting subtitles, wonder if I have to do the same for 317e. |
| mjkerner | 07 Apr 2014 11:29 a.m. PST |
Nice Thomas N. And Birte! Thanks for the links! |
| Silent Pool | 07 Apr 2014 11:48 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the book recommendations – I have just got both "Street of Joy" and "The Savage War of Peace" (Algerian War) on audiobook, so looking forward to getting through those. Excellent additional information on this post. Thanks. |
| Solzhenitsyn | 08 Apr 2014 5:33 a.m. PST |
Great report, thanks for sharing. The photos are great! |
| Thomas Nissvik | 08 Apr 2014 7:08 a.m. PST |
heyjoe, don't forget Hell In A Very Small Place where Fall looks closer at DBP. I am reading that right now. Excellent book. |
| Bertie | 08 Apr 2014 7:31 a.m. PST |
Glad to be of help gents. Howard Simpson's three books "DBP: The Epic Battle America Forgot," "Tiger in the Barbed Wire" and "Bush at and Black Tie" are often overlooked. They are not as good as Fall, Rocolle or Windrow as overall accounts of the battle, but he had actually been to DBP and so had a perspective the others don't, and have lots in general about his time in Indochina. Cheers,
Bertie |
| Thomas Nissvik | 09 Apr 2014 2:43 a.m. PST |
Wicked! I only have the first one in my collection. Quick, Batman, to the Amazon Mobile!
Thanks, Bertie! |
| Etranger | 09 Apr 2014 4:03 a.m. PST |
I thought that Fall visited DBP too, albeit before the siege? My copy is out in the shed and it's pouring out!Simpson does provide another prespective though. |
| Bertie | 09 Apr 2014 6:00 a.m. PST |
Etranger,
Keep dry!
Fall left Indochina on October 16th 1953, well before "Castor", to return to the USA via France and get married. He returned in the summer of 1957: Dorothy Fall (2006) "Bernard Fall. Memories of a soldier-scholar" (Washington: Potomac Books) p80 and p111.
Cheers,
Bertie |
| Etranger | 10 Apr 2014 4:58 a.m. PST |
That saves me having to pull Dorothy's memoir out then. Ta. |
| huevans011 | 11 Apr 2014 6:08 p.m. PST |
I would heartily recommend Windrow's The Last Valley. I recently re-read it and – again – found it enthralling and informative. |
finally begins Vietnam.
